Personal tax allowances down to zero for those on 112K
Personal tax allowances down to zero for those on 112K
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Steve996

Original Poster:

1,240 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Maybe I was dozing but I didn't notice this one in the budget, apparently those who have done well enough in their chosen profession to warrant >112K now get rewarded with a guaranteed opportunity to contribute even more to society through getting.........absolutely no personal tax allowance.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm

GT03ROB

13,893 posts

239 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Steve996 said:
Maybe I was dozing but I didn't notice this one in the budget, apparently those who have done well enough in their chosen profession to warrant >112K now get rewarded with a guaranteed opportunity to contribute even more to society through getting.........absolutely no personal tax allowance.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm
You were dozing...Winky soaking the "rich" again...

mrmr96

13,736 posts

222 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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It's sh t isn't it?
FWIW I don't earn that much, but I don't envy those that do, as for the most part, they've earned it.

oyster

13,267 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Steve996 said:
Maybe I was dozing but I didn't notice this one in the budget, apparently those who have done well enough in their chosen profession to warrant >112K now get rewarded with a guaranteed opportunity to contribute even more to society through getting.........absolutely no personal tax allowance.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm
And this is why we have Brown as PM. Because if people like you haven't noticed a huge tax hike, then how on earth are less intelligent people?

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Steve996 said:
Maybe I was dozing but I didn't notice this one in the budget, apparently those who have done well enough in their chosen profession to warrant >112K now get rewarded with a guaranteed opportunity to contribute even more to society through getting.........absolutely no personal tax allowance.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm
The taper starts at 100k

Steve996

Original Poster:

1,240 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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For the life of me I dunno how I missed it, I thought I'd run through all of the tax changes but somehow missed this little gem, thieving b'stards

Slaav

4,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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When you actually look at it and work it through... it actually gets worse!

If the headline stated '60% Higher rate', he would probably be out on his arse....

The effective HRT at £100-112K is actually 60%! Bloody rip off if you ask me.

A small glitch in the system if you are not in that bracket - disgraceful if you are?

wker


Mclovin

1,679 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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i guess the pigs in the trough will keep their salary the same and increase expenses for all the nogood work they....

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Mclovin said:
i guess the pigs in the trough will keep their salary the same and increase expenses for all the no good work they....
No. Even they are not stupid enough to get caught doing that again after all the trouble they had this year wink

Mclovin

1,679 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Rude-boy said:
Mclovin said:
i guess the pigs in the trough will keep their salary the same and increase expenses for all the no good work they....
No. Even they are not stupid enough to get caught doing that again after all the trouble they had this year wink
no your wrong, they just wont get caught again or flock to europe....

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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So Labour still see anyone being ambitious as evil then, I am sure their highly paid Local Authority Directors and Chief Execs are not too pleased at getting no tax allowance.

Maybe this rule could be re-written to only be for those whose job title is celebrity.

Slaav

4,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
So Labour still see anyone being ambitious as evil then, I am sure their highly paid Local Authority Directors and Chief Execs are not too pleased at getting no tax allowance.

Maybe this rule could be re-written to only be for those whose job title is celebrity.
Or more likely - exclude anybody remotely working in the public sector?

Another option is just to have one rule for some and another for everyone else? ...... oh no - isnt that already the case? smile

sjn2004

4,051 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Didn't spot this, what a rip off. Whats the deal with pension contributions exactly.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2009/tax-relief-pen-c...

If you earn 149k you get tax relief at 40%, however if you earn 151k you get tax relief at 22% so effectively earn less net than the individual on 149k gross?

edit (found this)

"The UK government announced that from 6 April 2011, the availability of higher rate tax relief on pension contributions to U.K.-registered pension schemes will be restricted for those with income of £150,000 or more per annum. Relief will be tapered away so that for those with incomes of £180,000 p.a. or over, it will be restricted to the basic income tax rate (currently 20 percent). (There are no details available yet about how these changes will be implemented in practice – the government intends to consult in due course.)"

Edited by sjn2004 on Thursday 21st January 22:19

anonymous-user

72 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Missed this as well... time to move back to the US I think frown

Eric Mc

124,268 posts

283 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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There are now two areas where people or organisations now pay a HIGHER rate of tax in a mid tier earnings bracket than they do at the very highest brackets.

This is prettu disgraceful, in my view and in no way can be seen to be "fair" (a a favourite word of Gordo's).

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

260 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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sjn2004 said:
Didn't spot this, what a rip off. Whats the deal with pension contributions exactly.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2009/tax-relief-pen-c...

If you earn 149k you get tax relief at 40%, however if you earn 151k you get tax relief at 22% so effectively earn less net than the individual on 149k gross?

edit (found this)

"The UK government announced that from 6 April 2011, the availability of higher rate tax relief on pension contributions to U.K.-registered pension schemes will be restricted for those with income of £150,000 or more per annum. Relief will be tapered away so that for those with incomes of £180,000 p.a. or over, it will be restricted to the basic income tax rate (currently 20 percent). (There are no details available yet about how these changes will be implemented in practice – the government intends to consult in due course.)"

Edited by sjn2004 on Thursday 21st January 22:19
I thought it had come down to £130k?

http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/pensions/pbr-pensi...

Somewhatfoolish

4,914 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Rude-boy said:
Mclovin said:
i guess the pigs in the trough will keep their salary the same and increase expenses for all the no good work they....
No. Even they are not stupid enough to get caught doing that again after all the trouble they had this year wink
They genuinely don't care. The vast majority of them could be clinically diagnosed as sociopaths.

Slaav

4,343 posts

228 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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NoelWatson said:
sjn2004 said:
Didn't spot this, what a rip off. Whats the deal with pension contributions exactly.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2009/tax-relief-pen-c...

If you earn 149k you get tax relief at 40%, however if you earn 151k you get tax relief at 22% so effectively earn less net than the individual on 149k gross?

edit (found this)

"The UK government announced that from 6 April 2011, the availability of higher rate tax relief on pension contributions to U.K.-registered pension schemes will be restricted for those with income of £150,000 or more per annum. Relief will be tapered away so that for those with incomes of £180,000 p.a. or over, it will be restricted to the basic income tax rate (currently 20 percent). (There are no details available yet about how these changes will be implemented in practice – the government intends to consult in due course.)"

Edited by sjn2004 on Thursday 21st January 22:19
I thought it had come down to £130k?

http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/pensions/pbr-pensi...
It has!

chris watton

22,545 posts

278 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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And meanwhile;

"UK Falls Out of Economic Top Ten – IEA"

http://www.iea.org.uk/record.jsp?type=release&...

Yep, let's tax us more, that'll help..........

Kermit power

29,622 posts

231 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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I saw this in the budget and got bloody furious about it.

Then, as the government planned, I forgot all about it because it didn't happen immediately.

Then I got my notification of a K tax code.

Now I am furious all over again.

bdy, bdy thieving bds!

To make matters even worse, if my wife and I earned our household income evenly between the two of us rather than me being the only wage earner, we'd already have been about £7k a year better off, and that's before this robs us of another couple of grand or more!

bdy, bdy bd! furious