Dogs & Sticks (Playtime)
Dogs & Sticks (Playtime)
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soad

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34,113 posts

194 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Recently took friends Alsatian for a run in the park.
I’ll never understand why he brings me a stick, then doesn’t let go of it. Whenever I attempt to wrestle him for it, the dog tends to lock his jaws, insurmountable determination in his unblinking eyes.

I let go of the branch, pick up another from the hedge and hold it like a great prize. Dog immediately lets go of the stick he was holding and jumps for the new one. I throw it; the dog sprints after it, leaving me to pick up the original one.

Why is someone else’s stick always better? Is it the canine equivalent of the grass always being greener?
scratchchin

Salsera

263 posts

220 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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The serious answer is that dogs like to play tug of war as it's a way of testing the pack layer system, they win, they move above you in the pack etc... read
However the very serious answer.... because they are as daft as a box of frogs, and therefore belive anything that you have, that they don't is always the best, especially dinner. Or maybe that's just my little garbage disposal unit...burger

anonymous-user

72 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Forgive me if I am wrong but I was always told throwing a stick for a dog was a big no no and potenially dangerous.....

But back on topic, I used to love this with my dog and his ragger, if I got bored of pulling on it and he wouldnt let go, I'd just fish a ball out of my pocket, you could almost see the deliberation in his eyes

Ragger - Shiny ball - Ragger - Shiny Ball

I miss my dog frown

cottonfoo

6,022 posts

228 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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My brother's old dog (god bless him no longer around) used to chase stones. He was a bit mental. He'd like to stand in the middle of the River Colne while I stood in the middle of a bridge with a stick, I'd throw it downstream and he'd swim after it, but instead of getting out he'd swim against the current toward me then get out and drop it at my feet, then jump back in again.

It was easy to tire him out but it took a good hour smile

Mr Darcy

1,006 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Mine always looks really pleased with himself when he finds a stick, though he does seem to test a few before he settles for "the one".

the_lone_wolf

2,622 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
anonymous said:
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rolleyes PC World gone mad eh ?.....
Not really, but if you're going to throw the stick make sure it goes further than the dog can run in the time it's airborne, or you may find yourself in the situation we did when some friends took our border collie out - their youngish kid threw the stick and it had just enough time to land and bounce one end up in time for the dog to get it rammed down her throat, tearing it in the process

Thankfully she was fine, but it pays to be a bit careful and think where your dog may not, we have one of those rubber balls on a rope loop, much cleaner and it's never going to damage the dogs mouth if she pounces on it at the wrong moment...

anonymous-user

72 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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the_lone_wolf said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
anonymous said:
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rolleyes PC World gone mad eh ?.....
Not really, but if you're going to throw the stick make sure it goes further than the dog can run in the time it's airborne, or you may find yourself in the situation we did when some friends took our border collie out - their youngish kid threw the stick and it had just enough time to land and bounce one end up in time for the dog to get it rammed down her throat, tearing it in the process

Thankfully she was fine, but it pays to be a bit careful and think where your dog may not, we have one of those rubber balls on a rope loop, much cleaner and it's never going to damage the dogs mouth if she pounces on it at the wrong moment...
Yeah that was the main thing I was thinking of, I used to have one of those ball launchers (a long plastic arm with a ball cup on the end) that was superb as I could launch it twice the distance for half the effort and I didnt have to pick up a slime covered ball, its also quite handy for when your dog runs into a bush and then comes out leaving the ball behind (little git biggrin)

becksW

14,690 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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VETERINARY NURSE WARNING:

Do not throw sticks for dogs

Lecture over smile

the_lone_wolf

2,622 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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anonymous said:
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We have one of those, problem is when I give it the beans it releases as the ball is travelling almost straight up, if they made a stronger version it'd fly. The ball on a rope works well if you get the timing right, like an upside-down trebuchetbiggrin

anonymous-user

72 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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anonymous said:
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Yeah they weren't perfect, I also remember giving the backlift some gusto and seeing the ball fall about 3 feet behind me, I think if dogs could do a facepalm, he would've done right there...

Ah ok, I'll check one out next time I get a dog, I have had the horrible experience of having a dog with a partner, us breaking up and her keeping the dog, I won't be getting another one until I own my own place and wouldn't have to go through that again....

Sixpackpert

4,959 posts

232 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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becksW said:
VETERINARY NURSE WARNING:

Do not throw sticks for dogs

Lecture over smile
My missus will second that, she's an ex-veterinary nurse.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

207 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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And I third it.

Someone threw a stick for one of my dogs once. It went end over end and the dog impaled herself on it down her throat frown. Luckily no serious harm done.

WorAl

10,877 posts

206 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Mrs Grumpy said:
And I third it.

Someone threw a stick for one of my dogs once. It went end over end and the dog impaled herself on it down her throat frown. Luckily no serious harm done.
yes seen that many times before, will only ever throw sticks for my dogs in the water then take it from them straight away.

SirClarke

633 posts

194 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Mrs Grumpy said:
And I third it.

Someone threw a stick for one of my dogs once. It went end over end and the dog impaled herself on it down her throat frown. Luckily no serious harm done.
Yes but realistically how often does this actually happen (especially with a dog being seriously hurt when neither in this thread were) compared to the many millions of stick throws that happen every day with no bad consequences.

If you let your dog run about off the lead there are numerous ways it can hurt/kill itself without you being able to do anything about it, the odd stick throw is unlikely to make a difference.

Wings

5,911 posts

233 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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soad said:
Recently took friends Alsatian for a run in the park.
I’ll never understand why he brings me a stick, then doesn’t let go of it. Whenever I attempt to wrestle him for it, the dog tends to lock his jaws, insurmountable determination in his unblinking eyes.

I let go of the branch, pick up another from the hedge and hold it like a great prize. Dog immediately lets go of the stick he was holding and jumps for the new one. I throw it; the dog sprints after it, leaving me to pick up the original one.

Why is someone else’s stick always better? Is it the canine equivalent of the grass always being greener?
scratchchin
That sounds just like my Amber, 3 year old German Shepherd, she is so, so jealous. Pick a stick up, she must have a tug of wall, pick another stick up or a ball, then her attention goes to either the stick or ball.

WorAl

10,877 posts

206 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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SirClarke said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
And I third it.

Someone threw a stick for one of my dogs once. It went end over end and the dog impaled herself on it down her throat frown. Luckily no serious harm done.
Yes but realistically how often does this actually happen (especially with a dog being seriously hurt when neither in this thread were) compared to the many millions of stick throws that happen every day with no bad consequences.

If you let your dog run about off the lead there are numerous ways it can hurt/kill itself without you being able to do anything about it, the odd stick throw is unlikely to make a difference.
But, why not just eliminate the chance of hurting the dog by taking a bit of rope or a ball with you?

Does your dog never run with the stick, end first in his/her mouth? what if it dips its head for some reason, yes, it might not kill the dog but its still not nice for it to get injured.

anonymous-user

72 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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SirClarke said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
And I third it.

Someone threw a stick for one of my dogs once. It went end over end and the dog impaled herself on it down her throat frown. Luckily no serious harm done.
Yes but realistically how often does this actually happen (especially with a dog being seriously hurt when neither in this thread were) compared to the many millions of stick throws that happen every day with no bad consequences.

If you let your dog run about off the lead there are numerous ways it can hurt/kill itself without you being able to do anything about it, the odd stick throw is unlikely to make a difference.
Granted, but surely its about minimizing risk?

You can teach a dog (pretty much) not to go near a road, or to come when you call, you can't teach it to do a risk assesment on whether a stick is going to lodge into the ground and pierce its throat, mouth etc

Each to their own but I think there is a huge market for throwable dog toys for a reason and seeing your dog in pain is not a pleasant experience

Charlie Foxtrot

3,128 posts

233 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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one of my dogs completly understands the concept of fetch. the other one, now dead, didn't. He would get excited when you picked up a ball or a stick and would chase after it like his life depended on it. He would then stand next to it looking at it and back to you wagging his tail all happy with himself. He'd wait there whilst you walked over and picked it up and start all over again.
Either he was very stupid or played a wicked practical joke, but he never once fetched anything.

He didn't like swimming either. He'd stand belly deep in the lake taking big mouthfulls of water. But would go no further.

tybo

2,284 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Ours always used to prefer sticks that were still attached to the tree.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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WorAl said:
But, why not just eliminate the chance of hurting the dog by taking a bit of rope or a ball with you?
Yep, and alcohol is a poison which is why I am sure you are tee-total to eliminate all risk! wink

Other risks for dogs - walking on hard surfaces, chocolate, stress by leaving them on their own, breaking legs on polished wooden floors etc etc.

My dog for one would be most upset if sticks were to become verboten, but then he's not stupid enough to carry sticks end-ways and is sufficiently well-trained to instantly drop whatever he is carrying when I shout 'drop'.