A selection of cams
A selection of cams
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monaro5.7

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7,337 posts

210 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Hi there guys doing ma home work on cams as iam looking to change mine soon

But i have come across a place in Newcastle that are doing ma custom exhaust for me. Iam also getting a new throttle body and cold air intake from them. The company they use in the states is Summit Racing and they have given me a link to there site. Summit Racing have 6 cams listed for my car but iam lost on all the technical stuff.

So here is the link 2 the cams pags and tell me what u think?

The car is an every day runner so i need to be able to use it in the town. But at weekends i have been know to do a bit 1/4 mile stuff (just check Jan`s Total Vauxhall) I look forward to all ur help and also the bannter this will create laugh

www.summitracing.com/search/make/PONTIAC/engine-size/5-7L-350/engine-family/Chevy-small-block-Gen-III-IV-LS-based-engines/Department/Engines-Components/Section/Camshafts-Valvetrain/Part-Type/Camshafts/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc

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gsd2000

11,515 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Just a question are you fitting a larger intake manifold, as i would have thought that a larger throttle body on a stock intake wouldnt make a big difference for the money. Why not fully port and polish your current throttle body.

ringram

14,702 posts

279 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Correct on the TB GSD.
Is the guy in Newcastle Ryan?

Choosing a cam will keep you ammused for hours. Look at the rpm use range and manufacturer recommendations. Also consider piston to valve clearance and valve spring requirements.. as well as how you will tune it afterwards.

Lots of reading will help. fwiw stay low 22x range for start stop daily driver.

Monaro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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gsd2000 said:
Just a question are you fitting a larger intake manifold, as i would have thought that a larger throttle body on a stock intake wouldnt make a big difference for the money. Why not fully port and polish your current throttle body.
Your right i was gonna port ma throttle body but the place iam having the work done said it would be roughly the same price to port the stock body as buyinh a new one so i thought i would just go for bigger and gives the option of in the future of bigger inlet manafold. The cam and also heads will be changed throw time.

Thats the plan smile

gsd2000

11,515 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Just pirt it yourself all you need is a dremel. Even if your worried about ruining it speak to someone live raving and buy a second hand one and port it. If they are charging you hundereds just to port and polish a throttle body then personally i think that expensive. I think with a stock ls1 intake you are restricted to an 80mm throttle body max. I think your better off looking into something like a fast 90 or fast 92 intake and throttle body.

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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gsd2000 said:
Just pirt it yourself all you need is a dremel. Even if your worried about ruining it speak to someone live raving and buy a second hand one and port it. If they are charging you hundereds just to port and polish a throttle body then personally i think that expensive. I think with a stock ls1 intake you are restricted to an 80mm throttle body max. I think your better off looking into something like a fast 90 or fast 92 intake and throttle body.




thats interesting coz i was looking at a 85mm TB. More work and investication needed

gsd2000

11,515 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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Or is it 85mm? But i would look into something like a fast 90 as you can port a fast intake to give more power.

Drew SS

2,683 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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buy a duspeed tb 145 dollars plus postage exchange heard some good reviews u will pay more for a second hand 1unported and polished over here

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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ringram said:
Correct on the TB GSD.
Is the guy in Newcastle Ryan?

Choosing a cam will keep you ammused for hours. Look at the rpm use range and manufacturer recommendations. Also consider piston to valve clearance and valve spring requirements.. as well as how you will tune it afterwards.

Lots of reading will help. fwiw stay low 22x range for start stop daily driver.


Looking to get my head around cams and i think iam getting there. Found a site called Crow Cams and it seems to be useful. They have a 227/232 cam which is what ur saying to go for but they also have a 233/237.

How much different would this cam be?

www.crowcams.com.au/search.aspx?EG=2871&MK=13&PC=11

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

255 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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you'd be far better looking at something like a 218/224, maybe a little more but not much for everyday driving in stop start traffic, typically they'll operate in the 1600 - 6300 rpm range or there about. As others have said though to get best out of it you'll need to do heads/valves/headers or you're wasting your time - was the problem I kept coming across every time I started a shopping list, it looks a cheap option to start with but the costs just keep rising and rising.

As for Summit Racing - why not go direct yourself for anything you want there? No need to go through 3rd party and add on their margin to the cost....

Monaro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Well_Fans said:
you'd be far better looking at something like a 218/224, maybe a little more but not much for everyday driving in stop start traffic, typically they'll operate in the 1600 - 6300 rpm range or there about. As others have said though to get best out of it you'll need to do heads/valves/headers or you're wasting your time - was the problem I kept coming across every time I started a shopping list, it looks a cheap option to start with but the costs just keep rising and rising.

As for Summit Racing - why not go direct yourself for anything you want there? No need to go through 3rd party and add on their margin to the cost....
Very true should just go dorect.

The headers are getting done soon then move onto the TB and air intake possibly a manafold. And in the end the heads will be done. But it gonna take time money and lots of overtime laugh

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Right been sitting here 4 hours ansd i think iam looking for a 222 or 224 cam. Anyone give me suggestions of where to look for them?

Drew SS

2,683 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Moanro5.7 said:
Right been sitting here 4 hours ansd i think iam looking for a 222 or 224 cam. Anyone give me suggestions of where to look for them?


so whats ur reason behind goin for that

Monaro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Drew SS said:
Moanro5.7 said:
Right been sitting here 4 hours ansd i think iam looking for a 222 or 224 cam. Anyone give me suggestions of where to look for them?
so whats ur reason behind goin for that
Been looking around various forums LS1.com in the states and oz. And the feed back is that 228 is just to much for a daily driver. 224 is about right but for a daily driver. I have had a GM cam recommended to and thats a 219.

So ma thinking is that 222 or 224 will give me that little bit more for when i do 1/4 miles and still give me a good daily driver without stressing the enngine to much.

Whats ur thought Drew SS?

Drew SS

2,683 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Monaro5.7 said:
Drew SS said:
Moanro5.7 said:
Right been sitting here 4 hours ansd i think iam looking for a 222 or 224 cam. Anyone give me suggestions of where to look for them?


so whats ur reason behind goin for that


Been looking around various forums LS1.com in the states and oz. And the feed back is that 228 is just to much for a daily driver. 224 is about right but for a daily driver. I have had a GM cam recommended to and thats a 219.

So ma thinking is that 222 or 224 will give me that little bit more for when i do 1/4 miles and still give me a good daily driver without stressing the enngine to much.

Whats ur thought Drew SS?


i have 222/224@112 here on the floor i bought 8 months ago and decided it wasnt worth doin until i get the rest..which im nearly there couple more months...

Monaro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Drew SS said:
Monaro5.7 said:
Drew SS said:
Moanro5.7 said:
Right been sitting here 4 hours ansd i think iam looking for a 222 or 224 cam. Anyone give me suggestions of where to look for them?
so whats ur reason behind goin for that
Been looking around various forums LS1.com in the states and oz. And the feed back is that 228 is just to much for a daily driver. 224 is about right but for a daily driver. I have had a GM cam recommended to and thats a 219.

So ma thinking is that 222 or 224 will give me that little bit more for when i do 1/4 miles and still give me a good daily driver without stressing the enngine to much.

Whats ur thought Drew SS?
i have 222/224@112 here on the floor i bought 8 months ago and decided it wasnt worth doin until i get the rest..which im nearly there couple more months...
So u went for the same size cam as the ones iam looking at. Iam the same i looking to get ma shopping list togeather and start putting the bits togeather. Then having them all fitted at the same time.

mv6

1,452 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th January 2010
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Si,is it AAS you are going to in Newcastle? Are you getting headers? Did After Shock get his headers done there? I cant find the link on here! How much? So many questions.

paul450

7,948 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th January 2010
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mv6 said:
Si,is it AAS you are going to in Newcastle? Are you getting headers? Did After Shock get his headers done there? I cant find the link on here! How much? So many questions.


yep thats where he is going, looks like there stuff is top quality

www.aas-exhausts.co.uk/

might be seeing a vxr8 there soon afterwards

after_shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th January 2010
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mv6 said:
Si,is it AAS you are going to in Newcastle? Are you getting headers? Did After Shock get his headers done there? I cant find the link on here! How much? So many questions.


Yeah I got mine done, if you want any pics or anything let me know, im trying to get some video clips so ppl can hear what its like but the weather keeps getting in the way of doing any!!

If you want a 3rd party opinion on quality of the work mark at Rapid had a good look round them when it was in and was very impressed with the work, for the price cant go wrong!

paul450

7,948 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th January 2010
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after shock can you put up some pic's please

after si told me how much it was costing, thinking of getting the vxr8 done.