2000 server to 2003 SBE
Discussion
I was just reading though Fish's Thread about options for Email.. and 2003 SBE came up..
I currently have 2 2000 server boxes at work but are in need of a upgrade. Has anyone had any experience with 2003SBE i have requested a evaluation CD so i can have a try.
So far the network is not setup at all its all adhoc bit got here and there in the race to keep with the company expantion. Now its got a little bigger, I wanted to replace the lot. I am looking through the Dell site for 4 Servers (2 Fileservers 1 Intranet/pop3/security plus 1 for backups or critical data)
I am dicing weather i should upgrade to 2003 SBE on the Main big server and keep 2000 on the other 3.
I similar to Fish want to have the POP3 mail on a company machine, plus a backup of my site. Also the spare server will be used as a testing platform for the software we develop.
Secondly I will be purchasing 8 new dell machines basic Desktop (probably Octiplex ones) I do not want anyone to be able to login locally. How could i achive this?? The workstations will have Win XP Pro on them so all have common interface.
Many Thanks
Steve
I currently have 2 2000 server boxes at work but are in need of a upgrade. Has anyone had any experience with 2003SBE i have requested a evaluation CD so i can have a try.
So far the network is not setup at all its all adhoc bit got here and there in the race to keep with the company expantion. Now its got a little bigger, I wanted to replace the lot. I am looking through the Dell site for 4 Servers (2 Fileservers 1 Intranet/pop3/security plus 1 for backups or critical data)
I am dicing weather i should upgrade to 2003 SBE on the Main big server and keep 2000 on the other 3.
I similar to Fish want to have the POP3 mail on a company machine, plus a backup of my site. Also the spare server will be used as a testing platform for the software we develop.
Secondly I will be purchasing 8 new dell machines basic Desktop (probably Octiplex ones) I do not want anyone to be able to login locally. How could i achive this?? The workstations will have Win XP Pro on them so all have common interface.
Many Thanks
Steve
2003 sbs is a very impressive bit of kit.
It's very oriented towards a single server environment. It can only handle 75 users.
It has excellent internet capabilities in terms of ease of setup. It wants you to have a broadband connection shared through it and running your website on it, but will survive without it.
When you mean not logon locally, i assume you mean force them to log on using the domain? Surely you can just set the administrator password and disable the guest account. Then they'll only be a ble to log on using their domain account.
It's very oriented towards a single server environment. It can only handle 75 users.
It has excellent internet capabilities in terms of ease of setup. It wants you to have a broadband connection shared through it and running your website on it, but will survive without it.
When you mean not logon locally, i assume you mean force them to log on using the domain? Surely you can just set the administrator password and disable the guest account. Then they'll only be a ble to log on using their domain account.
Quite a few of our client sites use sbs 2000. Just about to upgrade most of them to 2003.
No problem with running SBS and Win2k Servers together in the same domain but you can only have 1 SBS server in any domain. Make the SBS your Primary DC as it makes life a bit easier. You say your company is expanding? I dont know how much you plan to grow (oo-er missus) but remember that sbs has limited license connections.
Exchange has a pop3 connector so you can schedule pop3 downloads centrally although I'd reccommend using an SMTP stream from your ISP if you have the benefit of a permanent net connection. SBS also has built in proxy server. If you only have dial up, SBS also has a decent modem sharing service. Win2k obviously has some of these features but the best thing with SBS is that it's so simple to administer. If you're a novice then it has comprehensive wizards for doing just about anything.
Can you clarify what you mean by denying rights to log on locally? Are you talking about preventing users from logging on to the server locally, or forcing PC's users to log onto the domain?
>> Edited by jam1et on Thursday 5th February 20:45
No problem with running SBS and Win2k Servers together in the same domain but you can only have 1 SBS server in any domain. Make the SBS your Primary DC as it makes life a bit easier. You say your company is expanding? I dont know how much you plan to grow (oo-er missus) but remember that sbs has limited license connections.
Exchange has a pop3 connector so you can schedule pop3 downloads centrally although I'd reccommend using an SMTP stream from your ISP if you have the benefit of a permanent net connection. SBS also has built in proxy server. If you only have dial up, SBS also has a decent modem sharing service. Win2k obviously has some of these features but the best thing with SBS is that it's so simple to administer. If you're a novice then it has comprehensive wizards for doing just about anything.
Can you clarify what you mean by denying rights to log on locally? Are you talking about preventing users from logging on to the server locally, or forcing PC's users to log onto the domain?
>> Edited by jam1et on Thursday 5th February 20:45
Agent and Jamie,
at the moment each person has a PC with there own login (locally)
But wat i want to migrate to is as youve explained it a Domain. To be honest i have not setup one before and only worked with workgroups.
I have 2 servers at the moment mainly Fileservers but one has CCTV and Automation systems to control.
Each workstation is user Specific I have my own system that no one alse can use and so on, but i have acces on theres by admin account.
Is there any resources that i can read up on setting up a domain?
cheers
steve
at the moment each person has a PC with there own login (locally)
But wat i want to migrate to is as youve explained it a Domain. To be honest i have not setup one before and only worked with workgroups.
I have 2 servers at the moment mainly Fileservers but one has CCTV and Automation systems to control.
Each workstation is user Specific I have my own system that no one alse can use and so on, but i have acces on theres by admin account.
Is there any resources that i can read up on setting up a domain?
cheers
steve
_DJ_ said:
Primary DC? No such thing in Windows 200x is there? You mean the PDC Emulator? Any reason why?
DJ
In Windows 2000, the domain controller concept is retained but the PDC and BDC server roles are generally replaced by the Active Directory. However, in SBS 4.5/2000/2003 the machine must be set up as a PDC. This is why you can only have 1 SBS server in a domain.
Stevie, since SBS is installed as a PDC, this means that you cannot join an existing domain so you'll have to start your domain from scratch with your SBS server. Windows 2000 under SBS is also not able to trust other domains although I dont htink this will be an issue for you. Basically, Microsoft has designed SBS to serve in a single domain type network as the domain controller. But you can easily add other Windows 2000 Server based servers to an SBS network as either a Standalone Server or Backup Domain Controller (BDC).
>> Edited by jam1et on Friday 6th February 10:03
I'm still not convinced you've got that right.
From what you've said, the SBS Server has to be the 1st server in the domain, which is fine. However, there still is no concept of a PDC or BDC in Windows 2000. The first domain controller in a domain is assigned the PDC Emulator FSMO role (which can be transferred). Additional DC's are NOT BDC's - they're domain controllers (i.e they are Kerberos KDC's and have a writable copy of the domain database).
From what you've said, the SBS Server has to be the 1st server in the domain, which is fine. However, there still is no concept of a PDC or BDC in Windows 2000. The first domain controller in a domain is assigned the PDC Emulator FSMO role (which can be transferred). Additional DC's are NOT BDC's - they're domain controllers (i.e they are Kerberos KDC's and have a writable copy of the domain database).
Copied this from Microsoft FAQ about having 2 SBS servers in the same domain www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/generalfaq.mspx
"There can be only one Windows Small Business Server 2003 server in a domain. Each Windows Small Business Server 2003 server is typically connected to the Internet either directly, or via a firewall. Windows Small Business Server 2003 does not support trusts between domains; therefore, user names and resources could not be shared between those Windows Small Business Server 2003 servers. Further, Windows Small Business Server 2003 installs at the root of the Active Directory forest, and it cannot be demoted, or have the flexible single-master operation (FSMO) roles removed"
- Thus it has to be the PDC.
>> Edited by jam1et on Friday 6th February 11:13
"There can be only one Windows Small Business Server 2003 server in a domain. Each Windows Small Business Server 2003 server is typically connected to the Internet either directly, or via a firewall. Windows Small Business Server 2003 does not support trusts between domains; therefore, user names and resources could not be shared between those Windows Small Business Server 2003 servers. Further, Windows Small Business Server 2003 installs at the root of the Active Directory forest, and it cannot be demoted, or have the flexible single-master operation (FSMO) roles removed"
- Thus it has to be the PDC.
>> Edited by jam1et on Friday 6th February 11:13
Calm down people, its only a technicality
I have just order the trial edition of SBS from Microsoft. Im just a bit miffed with the licensing though.
But have tried having a linux server and it takes to long to setup, and too much hassle configuring.
I was configuring a server last night on the dell site. the 1750 Rack server, Whats the difference between the PCI slots? 64bit and 32bit.
I have got a PCI card in my existing server that will have to be transfered across but i aint got a clue if the 64bit is backward compatible any ideas.
The PCI card runs on a Abit KT7A-Raid Motherboard if that any help
cheers
steve
I have just order the trial edition of SBS from Microsoft. Im just a bit miffed with the licensing though.
But have tried having a linux server and it takes to long to setup, and too much hassle configuring.
I was configuring a server last night on the dell site. the 1750 Rack server, Whats the difference between the PCI slots? 64bit and 32bit.
I have got a PCI card in my existing server that will have to be transfered across but i aint got a clue if the 64bit is backward compatible any ideas.
The PCI card runs on a Abit KT7A-Raid Motherboard if that any help
cheers
steve
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