anyone remember a group b mid engined prototype.

[brandonesterer]

right before the rules mixup in 86-87 i think.
factory built. never raced. i have a vague memory of a black and white cutaway drawing- cant seem to find anything solid online.

article in Motorsport mag as i recall. cant find it.

im thinking of doing a mid-engined rwd 20v with a 1st gen scirocco/audi 80 coupe.

these may be north american designations... and i am possibly dreaming it might have been just on paper. any info is appreciated.

i have seen golfs with the mid mounted power plant... i want the extra hole, the strong Audi tyranny and the motor pointed the right way...longitudinally.

thinking of a cheap sleeper for the local import drags in july.

[MonkeyHanger]

Not thinking of the Group S Quattro are you?

[Dr G]

Scirocco bimoto perhaps?

http://www.driversfound.com/scirocco/history/bimot...

Very well circulated cutaway photo on that link.

[brandonesterer]

hey thanks guys! that first photo must be the car i have in mind... the door seems short and the notation even mentions "cramped cockpit" hinting at the layout i have in mind. that scirocco also seems interesting- i really like the box flared one.

i wonder what the w.b. is on the above mentioned prototype? similar to ur sport i think... shorter than an audi coupe i would imagine (same footprint for fwd and awd road cars right?

ive gotten my paws on a 20v, a tranny from a fwd turbo audi 5000...also have a garret t4 that is in need of some love...

rad in the front, battery in the front,fuel tank in the front and spare tire in the front. tyre to you guys i guess.... any one got any photos from such a setup? golfs and scirocco's cheerfully declined...
(a little too fragile for the intentions i have with the car... nevermind my buget ( i hope to source all my parts from the scrapbin... save fasteners, hoses and fuel system...)

[MonkeyHanger]

brandonesterer said:

hey thanks guys! that first photo must be the car i have in mind... the door seems short and the notation even mentions "cramped cockpit" hinting at the layout i have in mind. that scirocco also seems interesting- i really like the box flared one.

i wonder what the w.b. is on the above mentioned prototype? similar to ur sport i think... shorter than an audi coupe i would imagine (same footprint for fwd and awd road cars right?

ive gotten my paws on a 20v, a tranny from a fwd turbo audi 5000...also have a garret t4 that is in need of some love...

rad in the front, battery in the front,fuel tank in the front and spare tire in the front. tyre to you guys i guess.... any one got any photos from such a setup? golfs and scirocco's cheerfully declined...
(a little too fragile for the intentions i have with the car... nevermind my buget ( i hope to source all my parts from the scrapbin... save fasteners, hoses and fuel system...)

After a bit more digging i reckon this might be the car you were thinking of...

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8... (scroll down to post #7)

It's a Prototype Mid-Engined S2 Sport Quattro.

[brandonesterer]

YES YES YES! Thank you so much, it might sound ridiculous but ive been looking for that article- the one with the cutaway drawing- for days... i wasnt even sure if the car existed in the flesh.

heres the bits i have... minus the turbo... couldnt find it this afternoon. im going to dyno a stock 10v with cast manifold and t4 and put that into a early 80's fwd audi gt. hoping to get ~ 350 hp running 12-14lbs boost $ 98 octane fuel.

then move up to a 20v with header 3" downpipe and CH3OH... lots to think about.
cant settle on a car to put it in... something with four rings...

[brandonesterer]

[brandonesterer]

looks like a monocoque...

[istoo]

That looks like a proper road rocket, not a rally man but it doesnt look a million miles away from an RS200.
type 85/89 with turbo transplants are very stealthy... although there are a spat of daft scandinavian ones, with Jonas quattro pipping 1000bhp in a type 85.