Im a photographer not a terrorist - PICS
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A few from today, I'll sort some more out later.
I also made it onto BBC news 24 for a couple of minutes behind the interviewer. I'm the Lanky git with glasses.
Out of focus and a bit cliche but I think it makes a point.
A bit of trouble.
I caught you looking
Doesn't look much like a terrorist to me?
I'm not sure about this dodgy looking chap though.
Scott
I also made it onto BBC news 24 for a couple of minutes behind the interviewer. I'm the Lanky git with glasses.
Out of focus and a bit cliche but I think it makes a point.
A bit of trouble.
I caught you looking
Doesn't look much like a terrorist to me?
I'm not sure about this dodgy looking chap though.
Scott
Edited by Scott330ci on Saturday 23 January 14:37
Scott330ci said:
Edited by Scott330ci on Saturday 23 January 14:37
PM me a link to your flickr and so i can see your set.
Oli
http://www.flickr.com/photos/olimeads/
Scott330ci said:
ETA to add link which I now can get to work
http://b
doldholborn.blogspot.com/EATA:
now I realise why PH doesn't like the url!!!!Edited by beano500 on Saturday 23 January 19:22
Just sorted these out.
full set - http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottwmccormack/sets/...
BBC News - I'm Far right
ITN London Tonight - Second from the right
Sky News - Directly above the bald chap - Very pixelated but looked good on TV
full set - http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottwmccormack/sets/...
BBC News - I'm Far right
ITN London Tonight - Second from the right
Sky News - Directly above the bald chap - Very pixelated but looked good on TV
Edited by Scott330ci on Sunday 24th January 19:58
http://photographernotaterrorist.org/artwork/
Grab a pack of printable sticker papery things and do your own.
Grab a pack of printable sticker papery things and do your own.
olimeads said:
http://photographernotaterrorist.org/artwork/
Grab a pack of printable sticker papery things and do your own.
As I did here.Grab a pack of printable sticker papery things and do your own.
I was working so wasn't able to be there yesterday, but having gone into London recently for a general play around with my camera I'm totally on their side
M-J-B said:
Go to the website and there is a download of the slogan.
Simpo Two said:
Think how low the crime rate could be if Plod didn't spend so much time bothering motorists and photographers...
Yes but we're easy targets, don't cause too much of a fuss, not much paper work, and they make a bob or two out of us motorists too. Its probably all a numbers game which look good on some league table somewhere or other. Not a defence for poor policing, and I am no expert.
But, I suppose there has to be a balance between what the bobbies and other agencies are actually doing to combat terrorism and what they are seen to be doing. And, whatever they are up to, we do take note when there's a police presence in the street and they are interacting with all the civvies.
To an extent, they need to give the impression that people going about their business are safe and, where they have nothing to hide, communication between police and all those people is a good thing. To the extent that "why are you parking your van there?" and "what are you photoing/filming and for what purpose?" become natural states of communication this is a good thing. The driver, the photographer, the innocent Londoner, the innocent tourist all want to live in a community that shows a united front against the minority that threaten our freedoms.
If I am walking past the Bank of England, say, I have nothing to hide and so would be quite happy to tell people that I'm going to an office up in Tower 42 for a meeting. But - on the other hand - that's nobody's business but mine.
Photographers are an easy and visible "target" in this environment - not for the likelihood we are doing anything wrong, but if we have nothing to hide then chatting to police and being friendly about it should be a win-win. And at the same time, probably anybody "loitering" (without anything obvious like a camera slung round their neck) could be viewed in the same way.
Trouble is, trying to see it from both sides, there just HAS to be a better way than the current set of circumstances. And becoming resistant, on the grounds of "human rights", is just fighting the wrong kind of battle against the world.
I'm not saying it's right or the answer - but a general mass of people wearing visible IAPNAT signs and being a bit more forthcoming in the sense of positive interaction, and taking the initiative with the bobby-on-the-beat might help to overwhelm the authorities with a better respect for photographers rights. There has to be a middle ground.
I whole-heartedly support the sentiment behind the gathering, in terms of seeing a better world for us all.
But, I suppose there has to be a balance between what the bobbies and other agencies are actually doing to combat terrorism and what they are seen to be doing. And, whatever they are up to, we do take note when there's a police presence in the street and they are interacting with all the civvies.
To an extent, they need to give the impression that people going about their business are safe and, where they have nothing to hide, communication between police and all those people is a good thing. To the extent that "why are you parking your van there?" and "what are you photoing/filming and for what purpose?" become natural states of communication this is a good thing. The driver, the photographer, the innocent Londoner, the innocent tourist all want to live in a community that shows a united front against the minority that threaten our freedoms.
If I am walking past the Bank of England, say, I have nothing to hide and so would be quite happy to tell people that I'm going to an office up in Tower 42 for a meeting. But - on the other hand -
that's nobody's business but mine. Photographers are an easy and visible "target" in this environment - not for the likelihood we are doing anything wrong, but if we have nothing to hide then chatting to police and being friendly about it should be a win-win. And at the same time, probably anybody "loitering" (without anything obvious like a camera slung round their neck) could be viewed in the same way.
Trouble is, trying to see it from both sides, there just HAS to be a better way than the current set of circumstances. And becoming resistant, on the grounds of "human rights", is just fighting the wrong kind of battle against the world.
I'm not saying it's right or the answer - but a general mass of people wearing visible IAPNAT signs and being a bit more forthcoming in the sense of positive interaction, and taking the initiative with the bobby-on-the-beat might help to overwhelm the authorities with a better respect for photographers rights. There has to be a middle ground.
I whole-heartedly support the sentiment behind the gathering, in terms of seeing a better world for us all.
I agree
I wouldn't mind being stopped and asked what I was doing if something could actually be seen as a threat. If it stops a terrorist act then I am all for it. I am not sure that I believe a riot van with multiple officers is nescecary (sp). Saying that if every time I went out with my camera and I was searched I would probably give it up.
I hope common sense will eventually prevail.
I wouldn't mind being stopped and asked what I was doing if something could actually be seen as a threat. If it stops a terrorist act then I am all for it. I am not sure that I believe a riot van with multiple officers is nescecary (sp). Saying that if every time I went out with my camera and I was searched I would probably give it up.
I hope common sense will eventually prevail.
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