RE: Driven: Citroen DS3
Monday 25th January 2010

Driven: Citroen DS3

Forget the 1950s - here's Citroen's 'anti-retro' Mini rival


Nice car and road, shame about the weather
Nice car and road, shame about the weather
Here's something a bit controversial to get your head around. This sharp-suited (dare we say funky?) city car marks, says Citroen, the end of the retro craze among top-end small cars. That's the trend that has created the current Mini, the reborn Fiat 500 and, to a lesser extent, the 1960s-flavoured Alfa Romeo Mito.

Now Citroen wants a piece of the same sub-supermini, super-fashionable pie, but it's not going to follow the retro route. Except that Citroen has chosen to call its new offering DS3, bringing thoughts of the classic 1950s DS series to mind. And the jazzy press conference video package that the world's motoring press are plonked in front of uses video clips of John Lennon and Marilyn Monroe to emphasise the modernity of the DS3. It's all a bit confusing.


Things become clearer, however, when you push aside the marketing puff. Citroen's bullish 'anti-retro' message might grate a little, but take a look at the DS3 and you can see where the phrase comes from. The sharp lines and round surfaces are unmistakably those of a Citroen but, unlike the DS3's rivals from Mini and Fiat, it doesn't reprise any specific models of the past.

The DS3 also has the requisite plethora of customisable interior and exterior options (including some striking roof graphic options, the 'zebra' being our favourite), which Citroen calls 'co-design', so another 'lifestyle' box is ticked there.


So perhaps the PR bluster is right because, visually at least, the DS3 is the first of these 'lifestyle' superminis to look genuinely and unashamedly modern.

The DS3 looks right, then, but it's going to take more than that to convince fashion-conscious buyers that the newcomer from Citroen has sufficient brand kudos. More important in something that has pretensions towards hot hatchdom, there's also the small matter of handling - Citroen isn't particularly known these days for its snappy-handling hatches and the DS3 is going to have to bring its 'A' game to take on the dynamically sparkling Mini.


Hop inside the DS3 and the first impressions are pretty convincing. If Citroen's designers had tried to create an interior this sophisticated even five years ago they would have stood no chance.

But with the C5, and C4 and C3 Picasso, Citroen interiors have become immeasurably more stylish and high quality. The DS3 continues with the trend with an attractive, well-trimmed and easy-to-use cabin (although the built-in button-only sat-nav isn't the easiest piece of kit to get on with). The DS3's cabin probably isn't quite up with a Mini's in terms of quality, but it easily outclasses a Fiat 500's interior. Still, with the top-end DSport version we tested coming in at £15,900, the DS3's cabin ought to be classy.


Heading out of Paris in morning rush hour it's immediately clear that the DS3 is a step up in refinement from the traditionally slightly flimsy Citroen supermini - indeed Citroen has thickened the side glass, fitted a special noise-dampening windscreen and generally worked hard on noise, vibration and harshness levels.

It's also clear that the 1.6-litre turbocharged THP 150 motor (which, confusingly, pumps out 154bhp, not 150) is strong enough to give the little DS3 quite a respectable turn of speed. The DS3 certainly feels well up for the challenge of attacking the manic Parisian morning traffic.


Out of the breathless mayhem of Paris, the DS3's diminutive stature (it's the same length as a Mini Clubman) and spirited motor makes the little Citroen a surprisingly entertaining country-road companion, and the sportiest Citroen for the best part of a decade.

But although the DS3 is a car that, should you chuck it at a twisty road, will leave a grin on your face for quite a while, don't expect it to deliver true hot hatch thrills - in this launch guise at least. There's a reasonably neutral balance to the handling, but although the tail will wag if you lift off mid-corner, there's not much in the way of adjustability. And a 0-60mph time of 7.3secs and a top speed of 134mph are respectable enough figures, but there's a slight springiness to the pedals, a deadness to the steering and a slightly too-long gearchange that conspire to keep the driver ever so slightly distanced from the action.


Then again, back-road blasts aren't really what the DS3 is about. Citroen has set about creating a contemporary-feeling, classy Mini rival that pushes Citroen upmarket and takes on retro rivals without feeling retro itself.

In those areas, the DS3 scores very well, but we'll have to wait for the hotter version of the DS3 that's rumoured for next year to see if Citroen's newest baby can make the leap from swift, chic city car to pukka baby hot hatch.

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MrTappets

Original Poster:

881 posts

220 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I am still in two minds about this. On the one hand it does look pretty good and is quite fast. On the other it might depreciate really badly and might look dated in a few years. Hopefully it'll end up one of those quirky modern semi-classics.

Jimbo_vx

334 posts

265 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I'd have one

edinph

387 posts

203 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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This is a design that looks great in a strong colour, but DULL in grey! Let's hope it's not flimsy...................

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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clapclapclap Well done Citroen.

I'm pleased. They could have produced some gooey retro-styled horror plastered in half-arsed DS styling cues, claimed it was some kind of 'rebirth', and, irony of ironies, to 'compete' with its German rivals, given it a rock-hard ride.

Instead, they recognise that the construction of a Deesse is a philosophy rather than a 'brand', one of refinement, quality and avant-garde French style.

A worthy successor to the DS Le Dandy 'city GT car':



Can't wait for the DS5 saloon now, especially if the DS range embodies this kind of avant-garde refinement and the design sketch looks like this:



Again, well done Citroen. I want one!

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Ugly rehash, no USP and a wasted opportunity for using the brand. If it's taken up by the fashionista in the same vein as the Mini or Fiat 500 or even the Beetle I will be stunned.

I suspect it will just steal sales from their other, even more mediocre offerings.

JKDesign80

92 posts

231 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I think the advertising campaign is definitely an odd one.

Citroen have been clearly influenced by the Fiat 500 and MINI, with the two tone paint, big retro dials, coloured dash, loads of chrome and the endless list of fashionable custom options.

That aside I thinks a pretty cool car, but its not 'anti-retro'.

kambites

71,452 posts

250 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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clap Well done Citroen for resisting the retro fad and producing something at least vaguely interesting looking.

Andehh

7,593 posts

235 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I do like it, think it looks very smart from the inside and out. Has PH missed the mark by calling it slow & long in the gear changes...before finishing it off saying there will be a hot one next year? This is surely only a standard, run of the mill car for people not interest in the Abarth, cooper S etc. Comments about the speed & handling should be reserved for the the car designed to be fast & swift round the back roads, shirley?

ProfessorPeach

616 posts

200 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I don't like the pointless B pillar.

LuS1fer

43,491 posts

274 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Yes, it's unmistakably a Citroen, Peugeot, Generic hatch. The reason retro is popular is because it's cute. What does this have that a Fiesta doesn't? Nothing that I can see, it's just a mainstream and fairly dull looking hatch with a "Citroen grille".

A retro GS would hardly have been retro and still looked futuristic compared to the modern average lardbucket.

Edited by LuS1fer on Monday 25th January 12:16

Scawie

331 posts

237 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Styling cues from the recent supercar prototype thing (in the nose)?

Buzzkill

786 posts

213 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Weight?

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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The Wookie said:
no USP
LuS1fer said:
What does this have that a Fiesta doesn't? Nothing that I can see,
By the sounds of it (and as a DS should), big-car luxury refinement and personalisation options in a small car.

Admittedly I would have thought they'd release the DS5 saloon first, but I'm not disappointed by what I read.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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The French are more understanding of the state of our roads so that should be a plus point.

GR33NIE

124 posts

202 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Like it lots, think i'd still take a 500 or MINI over one though anyday, that is until they unleash the sportier version

How much will that be though...? May aswell but a RS 200 Cup smile

collateral

7,238 posts

247 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Pretty impressive stats for a cooking version, imo

eta The angry fish styling is really growing on me, but a little niggle - can't stand it when the numbers on a speedo aren't horizontal

Edited by collateral on Monday 25th January 13:10

TomPenny

121 posts

210 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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16k? That's Clio 200 money, you'd be mad to buy a DS over a 200.

Gun

13,432 posts

247 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Might look better in the metal but I'm not a fan looking at those pictures, just looks too fussy and over designed.

CivicMan

2,211 posts

230 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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In the flesh it's GORGEOUS! Seems to have more road presence than a Mini, and it's in another class to the 500. The styling nuances are really neat - see it in the metal and really appreciate it!

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Twincam16 said:
The Wookie said:
no USP
By the sounds of it (and as a DS should), big-car luxury refinement and personalisation options in a small car.
A bit of extra sound deadening combined with the option of a different coloured roof and slightly 'different' cosmetics then. It's not as if the existing models are stiffly sprung with bland styling.

What's the point of going to the expense of tooling up for an entirely different body and interior for a separate model line when it's all improvements that should be on the existing vehicles?

It's all stuff they could have done within the standard Citroen badge and model structure without contradicting its existing brand values if you ask me.

They're too focused on the Citroen brand being cheap motoring. Peugeot should be doing that job, seeing as they can't make a decent driver's car anymore.