Police Plan to use UAVs on UK Population
Police Plan to use UAVs on UK Population
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collateral

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7,238 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Here

Linked Article said:
Police in the UK are planning to use unmanned spy drones, controversially deployed in Afghanistan, for the ­"routine" monitoring of antisocial motorists, ­protesters, agricultural thieves and fly-tippers, in a significant expansion of covert state surveillance.

The arms manufacturer BAE Systems, which produces a range of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for war zones, is adapting the military-style planes for a consortium of government agencies led by Kent police.

Documents from the South Coast Partnership, a Home Office-backed project in which Kent police and others are developing a national drone plan with BAE, have been obtained by the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act.
Doubleplusgood

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

222 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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collateral said:
Here

Linked Article said:
Police in the UK are planning to use unmanned spy drones, controversially deployed in Afghanistan, for the ­"routine" monitoring of antisocial motorists, ­protesters, agricultural thieves and fly-tippers, in a significant expansion of covert state surveillance.

The arms manufacturer BAE Systems, which produces a range of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for war zones, is adapting the military-style planes for a consortium of government agencies led by Kent police.

Documents from the South Coast Partnership, a Home Office-backed project in which Kent police and others are developing a national drone plan with BAE, have been obtained by the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act.
Doubleplusgood
When do we get Robocop?

collateral

Original Poster:

7,238 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Northern Munkee said:
collateral said:
Here

Linked Article said:
Police in the UK are planning to use unmanned spy drones, controversially deployed in Afghanistan, for the ­"routine" monitoring of antisocial motorists, ­protesters, agricultural thieves and fly-tippers, in a significant expansion of covert state surveillance.

The arms manufacturer BAE Systems, which produces a range of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for war zones, is adapting the military-style planes for a consortium of government agencies led by Kent police.

Documents from the South Coast Partnership, a Home Office-backed project in which Kent police and others are developing a national drone plan with BAE, have been obtained by the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act.
Doubleplusgood
When do we get Robocop?
He's dead! We killed him!

wink

Westy Pre-Lit

5,088 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Two can play at that game, my care package has a counter UAV....their blind.

collateral

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240 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Two can play at that game, my care package has a counter UAV....their blind.


Next!

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

222 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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collateral said:
Northern Munkee said:
collateral said:
Here

Linked Article said:
Police in the UK are planning to use unmanned spy drones, controversially deployed in Afghanistan, for the ­"routine" monitoring of antisocial motorists, ­protesters, agricultural thieves and fly-tippers, in a significant expansion of covert state surveillance.

The arms manufacturer BAE Systems, which produces a range of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for war zones, is adapting the military-style planes for a consortium of government agencies led by Kent police.

Documents from the South Coast Partnership, a Home Office-backed project in which Kent police and others are developing a national drone plan with BAE, have been obtained by the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act.
Doubleplusgood
When do we get Robocop?
He's dead! We killed him!

wink
Joking aside, I can remember watching Robocop at the local Odeon in 1987, thinking thats ridiculous, however unmanned UAV developed out of a military programme.

Sort of like a flying OCP ED209? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ED-209

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

206 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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how long before councils start using them to monitor your bins etc why dont they just chip us all now and get it over with ffs

hairykrishna

14,343 posts

225 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Northern Munkee said:
Joking aside, I can remember watching Robocop at the local Odeon in 1987, thinking thats ridiculous, however unmanned UAV developed out of a military programme.

Sort of like a flying OCP ED209? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ED-209
Or Terminator....



(from XKCD)

ymwoods

2,194 posts

199 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Tell me about it lol

The wonderfull future awaits us guys...

  • Cars will use GPS systems to stick to the speed limit, if you try to go over the speed limit then your on-board computer will debit your bank account immediatly and credit your licence with points, if you are over 12 points, your car will immediatly stop dead, deadlock and await the arrival of a prison truck.
  • All cars will be 0.6L, why would you need more! anymore will just burn children and kill the pretty flowers.
  • Any person who shows a different view whilst in an influential role (scientist for example) will immediatly be told to get lost and made to resign...hang on that sounds familiar!
  • The Climate change awareness course will be a compulsory lesson for youngsters in school. Brain scanners will check they actually agree with the goverment and are not just "nodding in the right bits"

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Bring back David Bellamy all is forgiven

nonegreen

7,803 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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ymwoods said:
Tell me about it lol

The wonderfull future awaits us guys...

  • Cars will use GPS systems to stick to the speed limit, if you try to go over the speed limit then your on-board computer will debit your bank account immediatly and credit your licence with points, if you are over 12 points, your car will immediatly stop dead, deadlock and await the arrival of a prison truck.
  • All cars will be 0.6L, why would you need more! anymore will just burn children and kill the pretty flowers.
  • Any person who shows a different view whilst in an influential role (scientist for example) will immediatly be told to get lost and made to resign...hang on that sounds familiar!
  • The Climate change awareness course will be a compulsory lesson for youngsters in school. Brain scanners will check they actually agree with the goverment and are not just "nodding in the right bits"
As someone once said

You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Sit back, watch and learn from history. This is a time they will call the silliness. There have been many others since that Jesus moron walked among us, but the pendulumn will swing back again and common sense will prevail.

Or perhaps I am just an optimist.

collateral

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7,238 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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hairykrishna said:
xkcd
Completely OT, but I used to be on the same IRC channel as Randy circa 2001-4...pretty crazy to me he now has the most famous comic in the world! First time someone referenced the comic I thought 'nooo...must be a coinkydink' (xkcd was his nick on IRC). IIRC He used to hit on one of my mates pretty relentlessly hehe

Small world

Elroy Blue

8,812 posts

214 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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The Police can't afford the fuel for their cars at the moment. Load of twaddle!

Hedders

24,460 posts

269 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
The Police can't afford the fuel for their cars at the moment. Load of twaddle!
This^

I hope!

ErnestM

11,621 posts

289 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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It's not as if you won't be able to tell they are there... If they use them over motorways, chances are you may have a few (hundred?) miles to slow down...

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AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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loltolhurst said:
how long before councils start using them to monitor your bins etc why dont they just chip us all now and get it over with ffs
Bins are already being chipped to monitor what you throw away and how much you "recycle", they also monitor and record ANY contact between council staff and old care clients (old people/disabled etc)

The next logical step as you say is for everybody to be tagged like dogs are something that would have in essence been achieved with a mandatory roll out of ID cards

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Big Brother is watching, the 2010 general election is an opportunity for people to make a change..............Conservative, UKIP, Lib Dem, Green, Independent, BNP, anybody but labour

nonegreen

7,803 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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AndrewW-G said:
loltolhurst said:
how long before councils start using them to monitor your bins etc why dont they just chip us all now and get it over with ffs
Bins are already being chipped to monitor what you throw away and how much you "recycle", they also monitor and record ANY contact between council staff and old care clients (old people/disabled etc)

The next logical step as you say is for everybody to be tagged like dogs are something that would have in essence been achieved with a mandatory roll out of ID cards

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Big Brother is watching, the 2010 general election is an opportunity for people to make a change..............Conservative, UKIP, Lib Dem, Green, Independent, BNP, anybody but labour
I have returned my recycling bins to the council. I have refused to sign any forms they have sent me and despte the threatning letters they have since left me alone.

Swilly

9,699 posts

296 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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How long before UAV's hover down to you, speaking in a 'big-brother like voice' giving you a caution under the Anti-terrorism legislation for over filling your bin and failing yesterdays task resulting in you being put under house arrest for a day...

When will it become compulsory to have a 'diary room' in your house so that you can be summoned and told off !?

Smart roadster

769 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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This is a crock. The paper work to let the milatary use UAVs on closed ranges in danger areas is outragous. To have them flying around in open air space with all the other users won't happen anytime soon.
Someone thought it sounded like a good idea and forgot that in the real world you have passenger jets, helos, GA and all the military stuff wizzing about.
All it would take is someone putting the idea into the heads of the public, that a police UAV over London could drop an A380 with hundreds of people on board over the West end and the plan will be dropped. Who need terrorists when the MET are going to be playing with remote controlled planes on the Heathrow flight path.

catso

15,806 posts

289 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Sooner or later one would crash, just think of the lawsuits and H&S implications.

Edited by catso on Wednesday 27th January 14:31