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ymwoods

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2,194 posts

207 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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A week ago I run over an Owl...it was sitting in the middle of the road and was when the end of the snow was apon us. I believed it was a pile of dirty snow piled in the middle of the road into a little heap (as if a child had thrown it into the road) but as I got nearer (and thus too close to brake) it moved then flew infront of the car in its panic...bang.

No damage to my car etc but someone just told me that I need to report this as they are a protected species. Is this true? obviously I am a bit late now, being a week later, but I did not realise Owls were any different from hitting a badger for example.

eharding

14,648 posts

314 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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ymwoods said:
A week ago I run over an Owl...
No you didn't.

You ran over an Owl.

Granted, for the Owl, the effect was much the same.

Anyway, the Owl isn't protected in the same way that Tony Blair is protected.

If you run over Tony Blair, then you certainly have to notify someone, so that the street parties can be organised and the bunting correctly positioned.

Unless this Owl has a very, very strong resemblance to Tony Blair, I wouldn't worry.

PS. What the Hell is going on with PH Owl issues tonight?

kVA

2,460 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Errr.... Actually, you ARE required by law to report running over a Badger - so that wasn't a good example to use for not needing to report it!

If it was a Barn Owl, you are also required to report it, as they are a protected species (as are Badgers), but I don't believe Tawny Owls are protected (although they probably should be, as they are rarer than Barn Owls in many places!)

Likelihood is that no-one will be interested, but as you have mentioned it on here already it might not be a bad idea...

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

216 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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how did you cook it and was it tasty?

Wigeon Incognito

3,274 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Don't worry about it.

They are a protected species as all native wild birds now are by default under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (with a small number of species subject to a higher level of protection, Schedule 1 birds) but basically killing one isn't an offence in this case as it is the incidental result of a lawful operation and could not reasonably have been avoided (Part 1 S.4(2)(c)) i.e. it was killed unavoidably during the lawful act of driving.

Technically of course, if you were speeding you've committed a Part 1 S.1(1)(a) offence...

Oh, and you needn't report hitting badgers either although local badger groups might be interested in case it was an animal they knew of.

Edited by Wigeon Incognito on Wednesday 27th January 00:36

Healey73

1,181 posts

314 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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kVA said:
Errr.... Actually, you ARE required by law to report running over a Badger - so that wasn't a good example to use for not needing to report it!

If it was a Barn Owl, you are also required to report it, as they are a protected species (as are Badgers), but I don't believe Tawny Owls are protected (although they probably should be, as they are rarer than Barn Owls in many places!)

Likelihood is that no-one will be interested, but as you have mentioned it on here already it might not be a bad idea...
Things stated above are not true I'm afraid. As sad as it is you can drive over as many badgers as you like, well as long as you are not driving through your local zoo that is.

Edit to say: Beaten to it, what he said above ^

Edited by Healey73 on Wednesday 27th January 00:43

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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I was driving around St Andrews a number of years ago at dusk.
An Owl landed in the road infront of me.
I braked.
It looked at the car.
I crawled forward
It didnt move.
I nudged it very gently with the car.
It waddled off down the road about 8 feet and stopped looking at me.
I got out of the car.
It flew off..... (giggling probably. Owl game of chicken or something)

kVA

2,460 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Wigeon Incognito said:
Don't worry about it.

They are a protected species as all native wild birds now are by default under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (with a small number of species subject to a higher level of protection, Schedule 1 birds) but basically killing one isn't an offence in this case as it is the incidental result of a lawful operation and could not reasonably have been avoided (Part 1 S.4(2)(c)) i.e. it was killed unavoidably during the lawful act of driving.

Technically of course, if you were speeding you've committed a Part 1 S.1(1)(a) offence...

Oh, and you needn't report hitting badgers either although local badger groups might be interested in case it was an animal they knew of.

Edited by Wigeon Incognito on Wednesday 27th January 00:36
I didn't say that accidentally killing either was an offence, but I was sure that you were required to report it, all the same?

Sadly, I hit and killed a badger once and reported it, after being advised I should, and was told I had done the right thing by the local Police station.


Edited by kVA on Wednesday 27th January 00:49

Wigeon Incognito

3,274 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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kVA said:
Wigeon Incognito said:
Don't worry about it.

They are a protected species as all native wild birds now are by default under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (with a small number of species subject to a higher level of protection, Schedule 1 birds) but basically killing one isn't an offence in this case as it is the incidental result of a lawful operation and could not reasonably have been avoided (Part 1 S.4(2)(c)) i.e. it was killed unavoidably during the lawful act of driving.

Technically of course, if you were speeding you've committed a Part 1 S.1(1)(a) offence...

Oh, and you needn't report hitting badgers either although local badger groups might be interested in case it was an animal they knew of.

Edited by Wigeon Incognito on Wednesday 27th January 00:36
I didn't say that accidentally killing either was an offence, but I was sure that you were required to report it, all the same?

Sadly, I hit and killed a badger once and reported it, after being advised I should, and was told I had done the right thing by the local Police station.


Edited by kVA on Wednesday 27th January 00:49
No, no requirement to report it but a good idea if it was causing a hazard on the highway.

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Did you give two hoots when you saw it?

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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ymwoods

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2,194 posts

207 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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lol thanks for the replies guys, will report it in the morning and obviously explain that I was un-aware of any requirement to report it. On the other hand I believe it was indeed a tawny Owl but I will do so just to be on the safe side.

Is it just as simple as phoning the local nick and telling them where and when?

Dr.Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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It's a shame to have hit an Owl, but I honestly wouldn't bother reporting it.
You must have better things to do Shirley?

Matt Evans

1,530 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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cazzer said:
I was driving around St Andrews a number of years ago at dusk.
An Owl landed in the road infront of me.
I braked.
It looked at the car.
I crawled forward
It didnt move.
I nudged it very gently with the car.
It waddled off down the road about 8 feet and stopped looking at me.
I got out of the car.
It flew off..... (giggling probably. Owl game of chicken or something)
We had a similar thing happen to us. Owl sat there in the road, turned it's head to look at us as we approached. We braked, crept up to it and it just stayed there hunched over, watching us as we went round it. I'm assuming it was chomping on some sort of animal and didn't want to fly off for fear of us stealing it.

Stupidlikeafox

794 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Famous Graham said: