Are Job Hunters really this thick?
Are Job Hunters really this thick?
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Chris_w666

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22,655 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Currently have a vacancy advertised, which specifies amongst other things a set of skills and qualifications that the sucessful applicant will need. It also has a very boldly typed closing date of 22nd February and a very detailed description of the roles and responsibilities, and it states clearly that applications will only be accepted in the form of a CV and covering letter sent by post.

Somehow people seem to think it is going to do them some justice by calling to ask the closing date, calling to ask for application forms, emailing me their CV with badly written accompanying emails, and totally disreguarding the required qualifications for the post in question.

I give up banghead

Engineer1

10,486 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Not stupid, possibly just upping their number of aplications if the job center demand you apply for 5 jobs or they stop your money what would you do? Applying for 5 jobs irrespective of relevance would probably be your first move.

anonymous-user

81 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Engineer1 said:
Not stupid, possibly just upping their number of aplications if the job center demand you apply for 5 jobs or they stop your money what would you do? Applying for 5 jobs irrespective of relevance would probably be your first move.
Applying for 5 jobs you've got no chance of getting will be the first move for lots of them! They don't want to accidently end up getting one! Think Spud from Trainspotting!

Chris_w666

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22,655 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Engineer1 said:
Not stupid, possibly just upping their number of aplications if the job center demand you apply for 5 jobs or they stop your money what would you do? Applying for 5 jobs irrespective of relevance would probably be your first move.
If I am honest it is the ones that ask questions that are answered on the form more than the random hopefuls who at least follow the instructions.

Kudos

2,674 posts

201 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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In my experience, and has been discussed at length on here, it's the recruiters who are the ones who tend to be thick (there are exceptions of course). Lifting the phone to speak to them before sending CV's help to sift those who are "fishing" from those who are genuine. I'm sick of sending my CV for roles and not hearing back, but that's a story for a different day

No excuse though for spelling mistakes, sending wrong info etc.

maix27

1,070 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
Currently have a vacancy advertised, which specifies amongst other things a set of skills and qualifications that the sucessful applicant will need. It also has a very boldly typed closing date of 22nd February and a very detailed description of the roles and responsibilities, and it states clearly that applications will only be accepted in the form of a CV and covering letter sent by post.

Somehow people seem to think it is going to do them some justice by calling to ask the closing date, calling to ask for application forms, emailing me their CV with badly written accompanying emails, and totally disreguarding the required qualifications for the post in question.

I give up banghead
I feel your pain. It's pretty annoying having to sift through 60 odd CVs and find only one that's even slightly relevent. Headhunt... it saves so much time and you get to do the selection.

I can't use monster anymore, even searching something specific i'll find maybe 3 good people in a search of 100.

Chris_w666

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22,655 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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maix27 said:
I feel your pain. It's pretty annoying having to sift through 60 odd CVs and find only one that's even slightly relevent. Headhunt... it saves so much time and you get to do the selection.

I can't use monster anymore, even searching something specific i'll find maybe 3 good people in a search of 100.
Generally we would headhunt and we have tried through pretty much all of our contacts (and still are) to find the right person who is either willing to move or to stop being a freelancer for a year or two at least. There are just not enough of the right sort of person around, next level up lots, next level down lots. We may end up appointing someone and paying them for some intensive training.

maix27

1,070 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
maix27 said:
I feel your pain. It's pretty annoying having to sift through 60 odd CVs and find only one that's even slightly relevent. Headhunt... it saves so much time and you get to do the selection.

I can't use monster anymore, even searching something specific i'll find maybe 3 good people in a search of 100.
Generally we would headhunt and we have tried through pretty much all of our contacts (and still are) to find the right person who is either willing to move or to stop being a freelancer for a year or two at least. There are just not enough of the right sort of person around, next level up lots, next level down lots. We may end up appointing someone and paying them for some intensive training.
I hate roles like that... feels like you're banging your head against a brick wall. Someone usually pops up, eventually!

What industry are you in?

Chris_OCR

5,429 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Sounds like you need to use an agency if you already don't?

maix27

1,070 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Chris_OCR said:
Sounds like you need to use an agency if you already don't?
I guess that he works for an agency already...

Chris_w666

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22,655 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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maix27 said:
Chris_OCR said:
Sounds like you need to use an agency if you already don't?
I guess that he works for an agency already...
Nope, just we are trying to recruit an Outdoor Activity Instructor. Very small industry as most people do not want to work in the industry, certainly not those who want high salaries. Lots of very specific websites around for recruiting and we have tons of contacts but this time of year is when people in exotic/attractive locations are also recruiting.

Rob13

9,009 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Sounds a great job, but like you say poorly paid. It tends to be that if you work outdoors, you get peanuts in comparison with being stuck in a glass box all day

Chris_w666

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22,655 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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Rob13 said:
Sounds a great job, but like you say poorly paid. It tends to be that if you work outdoors, you get peanuts in comparison with being stuck in a glass box all day
Even senior jobs are not huge money but normally the offer of permanent work and evenings/weekends to play swings it in favour of places like ours.