Electric window sluggish
Electric window sluggish
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skoff

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1,387 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Hi Guys,

Since I am going to be doing a bit of work on my drivers door opeing problem soon, I thought I would look at my rather sluggish electric window at the same time. Is this usually a sign of a new motor needed? Or is it just built up crud / lubricarion needed?

Anybody know where to source a window motor? I guess it's from some other manufacturers parts bin. Has anyone fixed the same thing successfully?

Any info or just messages of support gratefully accepted!

JensenA

5,671 posts

252 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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I'm pretty sure it's a bespoke Cerbera/TVR part. First thing to do is clean up and grease the lifting mechanism. Then clean the window runners and spray either Silicone lubricant, or the 3-1 with PTFE, in to the runners.

ridds

8,365 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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A lot of the resistance is in the seal rubbers both on the top edge of the door and the A pillar.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Gummi Pflege Stift worked absolute wonders on this problem for me. Having tried all the usual lubricants - this was vastly better and much longer lasting.

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/__gummi-pflege_W0QQ_d...

skoff

Original Poster:

1,387 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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I have the urge to say 'bless you'

I have ordered some of that phlegm stuff and will give it a go.

Thanks a million, dunno what I'd do without you guys sometimes...

FUBAR

17,065 posts

260 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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skoff said:
I have the urge to say 'bless you'

I have ordered some of that phlegm stuff and will give it a go.

Thanks a million, dunno what I'd do without you guys sometimes...
Same as, cheers bow

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

300 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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i also experience a slow window, I was looking at improving the wiring, larger gauge perhaps, the Cerbera wiring is not the greatest.
Skoff, would you be able to post some pictures, i have a need to replace the felt runners on doors, well its not there at the moment, and want to see some other set ups.

Cheers
Dean

to add, just purchased some of this phlem...lol

Edited by dean_ratpac on Thursday 28th January 16:29

skoff

Original Poster:

1,387 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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dean_ratpac said:
i also experience a slow window, I was looking at improving the wiring, larger gauge perhaps, the Cerbera wiring is not the greatest.
Skoff, would you be able to post some pictures, i have a need to replace the felt runners on doors, well its not there at the moment, and want to see some other set ups.

Cheers
Dean
Will do. Going to try to sort it this weekend if the jar of snot arrives in time and if my 3 year old will allow me an hour's peace... Failing that it will be next weekend

JensenA

5,671 posts

252 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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That 'Gummi Pflege' (German for Rubber Care) is basically the same stuff that Meguars produce, Rubber COnditioner #40. You can buy it, and similar stuff from Halfords - Trim Care/Rubber Care/Rubber Detailing Cream etc etc. A cream with a high Silicone content.

http://shop.autobritedirect.co.uk/meguiars-40-viny...

Tanguero

4,535 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Probably exactly the same stuff - but without the added comedic name wink

T8RUS

210 posts

281 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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you just need to replace the felt type runners at each end of the glass. i think you can get it from tvr carparts if i remeber correctly. i think you buy it by the mtr. i tried all types of spray with either little or no improvement, changing the the felt was the best result.

hope this helps russ.

here's a link to the page. http://www.racetechdirect.co.uk/tvr-car-parts-subs...

Edited by T8RUS on Friday 29th January 18:37


Edited by T8RUS on Friday 29th January 18:42

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

300 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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I've got that new felt, but it's been too cold to do anythin on the car.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

234 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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I'd get a multimeter out and check how much voltage you are getting to the motor as well. The door connectors are quite well known to corrode over 10 years. Just an easy free check to do before spending on anything.

skoff

Original Poster:

1,387 posts

256 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I managed to get some time to work on the Cerb this weekend and had a measure of success. I took the door card off, took the glass out then lubed everything up with the stuff recommended by Tanguero (thanks again!) which was delivered next day via Royal Mail, I did the oily bits with some 3 in 1. It has made a noticable difference, it's still not super fast, but bearable. If it gets worse again I will replace the felts as per T8rus suggestion, and check the voltages as per Jammy Basturd - cheers guys... There was quite a bit of gunge in the mechanism, so I am fairly sure that's what the main problem was.

Here are some pics of the mechanism for Dean Ratpac:




I hope this shows what you need to see.

Now, on to the door opening problem. I managed to sort this one 100% so I am quite pleased with myself. It's a bit of a PITA job as it involves taking the seat belt mounting off and a load of trim next to the back seat, but once you have the interior trim off, it's a pretty easy thing to sort.

The problem was thet the solenoid thing that pulls the latch to open the door wasn't pulling far enough. There's an adjuster nut that must work lose with time and use, I just tightened it up and it worked a treat. Here's a bad picture of the thing, the arrow points to the nut that needs tightening:


wurgle

41 posts

130 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Quick questions

My drivers window is rather very slow and having given it a silicon spray as best I can without disassembly I think new felt may be a good option.

https://www.racetechdirect.co.uk/car-parts/body-tr...

  1. 1 to save me taking it apart, measuring and then ordering, can anyone tell me how many meters I need for both windows.
  1. 2 Also assuming rubbish connectors, does anyone have any recommendations? I found e.g.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMP-Superseal-Waterproo...

but I'm slightly suspicious due to the lack of information like current capability.

Juddder

949 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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I have the AMP connectors all ready to be installed on mine to replace all of the door connectors as the original ones get water into them and corrode (as I'm sure you've worked out)

I wouldn't think current rating is a problem with these, as the pins are thicker than the wires they are joining and at most we have 12V going through here at relatively low current (no fuse is higher than 20Amps on the car) but am happy for someone to wade in with a few equations if needed smile

On the amount of window felt you need - just mail Racetech - they'll know wink

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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Juddder said:
I have the AMP connectors all ready to be installed on mine to replace all of the door connectors as the original ones get water into them and corrode (as I'm sure you've worked out)

I wouldn't think current rating is a problem with these, as the pins are thicker than the wires they are joining and at most we have 12V going through here at relatively low current (no fuse is higher than 20Amps on the car) but am happy for someone to wade in with a few equations if needed smile

On the amount of window felt you need - just mail Racetech - they'll know wink
Have you an image and part number of the connectors?

Byker28i

82,674 posts

239 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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AMP superseal, I think I bought my last ones from ebay and soldered rather than crimped them

Thunderroad

202 posts

144 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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I bought some from these guys the other day.

Brummmie

5,284 posts

243 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Window winder is off Taxi's and Porsche/Maserati of the same period also, I am just fitting new felts in my runners and the one i have done so far is flying up now.
I am waiting for the courier to drop off some door seals as there are two different types, one with a Double bubble air gap, and the earlier single bubble type, which the TVR specialists say you cant get, but i may have found something that will do it.
The window motor has two grommets at the top, you can prise those off and get a squirt of WD in, that seems to get it going a bit quicker too.