Alonso disagrees with refuelling ban
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He's moaning before the season has even started.
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_589298...
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_589298...
Marcia said:
He's moaning before the season has even started.
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_589298...
What do you expect from him. Rumours in Italy are saying that there are question marks of the car "already". I guess he is getting his excuses in early.http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_589298...
I can see the sense in what he says.
Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
jamieboy said:
I can see the sense in what he says.
Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
Yes but its the same for everyone? Why question it now when we all new that the rules were changing last year? And if the Ferrari is one of the quicker cars then it should be starting on the front of the grid so whats his problem? He should be happy...........surely?Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 29th January 10:56
Wanta996Gotta said:
jamieboy said:
I can see the sense in what he says.
Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
Yes but its the same for everyone? Why question it now when we all new that the rules were changing last year?Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
Marcia said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Yes but its the same for everyone? Why question it now when we all new that the rules were changing last year?
My thoughs exactly.Edited by jamieboy on Friday 29th January 10:59
jamieboy said:
Marcia said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Yes but its the same for everyone? Why question it now when we all new that the rules were changing last year?
My thoughs exactly.Edited by jamieboy on Friday 29th January 10:59
Of course the people who've invested their own egos into another driver, will claim he is moaning. I would rather the drivers speak their minds than hardly giving anything anway like schumacher when interviewed.
"Michael what do you think of Renault's strategy?"
"I don't know, why don't you ask them"
also please bear in mind for the coming season
"It's a drivers job to complain about the car"
Martin Brundle
Wanta996Gotta said:
jamieboy said:
I can see the sense in what he says.
Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
Yes but its the same for everyone? Why question it now when we all new that the rules were changing last year? And if the Ferrari is one of the quicker cars then it should be starting on the front of the grid so whats his problem? He should be happy...........surely?Obviously, there'll be a certain amout of movement with some drivers saving their tyres better on heavy fuel and getting the good of them later in the race, but in principle I think what he says is right - if everyone has the same fuel load, then the ones that are quicker in qualifying will probably, generally be quicker in the race.
They've still got tyre changes (haven't they?) but I think that the effect of different fuel loads and different tyre usage has to offer more scope for overtaking that different tyre usage on its own.
What he has said is just simple logic. Overtaking is very hard. Taking out refuelling strategies won't make overtaking easier. Therefore, qualifying will be more important.
Edited by Jungles on Saturday 30th January 03:08
Refuelling was brought in to make the races more exciting, to bring more spectacle. I'm not certain that its main intent was to allow more overtaking. (And it isn't overtaking, it is passing when one car is in the pits).
It was a cop-out in any case.
If overtaking is made very easy then qualifying would be pointless and the fastest car with the best driver would always win. What we have now is the driver with some bottle stands the best chance of winning.
The most thrilling race I ever saw consisted of just the one overtake, and that was on the penultimate lap. Give me quality over quantity anytime. There was no refuelling then either.
Alonso is entitled to a point of view, has a right to express it and, as ex-WDC, has a right to have it published. However, if he thinks fuel levels is the only strategic decision that team managers can make then I'm afraid he's wrong. I feel sure Ross Brawn will demonstrate this to him during the season.
Fuel stops changed GP racing into three or so sprints. I prefered it the old way: one race with three distinct parts. The start, the middle and the end.
It was a cop-out in any case.
If overtaking is made very easy then qualifying would be pointless and the fastest car with the best driver would always win. What we have now is the driver with some bottle stands the best chance of winning.
The most thrilling race I ever saw consisted of just the one overtake, and that was on the penultimate lap. Give me quality over quantity anytime. There was no refuelling then either.
Alonso is entitled to a point of view, has a right to express it and, as ex-WDC, has a right to have it published. However, if he thinks fuel levels is the only strategic decision that team managers can make then I'm afraid he's wrong. I feel sure Ross Brawn will demonstrate this to him during the season.
Fuel stops changed GP racing into three or so sprints. I prefered it the old way: one race with three distinct parts. The start, the middle and the end.
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