Opinions on this E39
Opinions on this E39
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Gad-Westy

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16,215 posts

236 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Stumbled across this. What are people's thoughts on the price? Other general opinions?

http://pistonheads.com/sales/1467846.htm

Edited by Gad-Westy on Friday 29th January 13:12

CarbonM5

927 posts

214 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Its a lovely thing with good milege-bar the wood trim,but its still isnt a face lift which is what you want for that money.

Trellis

590 posts

262 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Agreed.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

275 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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It's a 1998 car being marketed as a 2003 car. That tells me all I need to know about the seller...

Pferdestarke

7,192 posts

210 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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You need a facelift.

The car silly, not you.

And stay away from wood, it doesn't fit with the otherwise sporty image.

Roan

527 posts

224 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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It is technically a 2003 car, being registered in 2003. I realise it's a 1999MY car, but there are stacks of cars that get registered years after the build date. They've usually been sitting about in a field in Belgium for years...

I don't think the seller is being particularly dishonest. Most of the general public/sheep will wonder why [if the seller stated] it was a 1998 car when it was registered in 2003. It's overpriced anyway, I paid under £9000 for a Nov 2000 (full facelift) E39 M5 a month ago, albeit it needed a few bits and pieces.


Hedgetrimmer

570 posts

280 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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This would not be for me either. If it has been sitting round for 5 years do very little then the seals will not be in good condition. Alternatively it may have had a pretty heavy life before being road registered.

You will have all of the usual pre update issues such as Vanos and oil past the piston rings.


MarkwG

5,845 posts

212 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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"It Was Used For The F1 Team To Display At All Major Avents" - maybe it's me, but that sounds a bit weird? If "the F1" means BMW F1, they didn't buy into F1 until 2005 - Sauber were linked to Ferrari before that? And does display mean "sit around being stared" at, or in the "Red Arrows" sense of the word...be interested to know!

julian64

14,325 posts

277 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Wood..nt touch it with a barge pole. (see what I did there).

Or at least I'd go into it with eyes wide open.
It is a 1998 car, forget all the registered in 2003 rubbish. Its a 1998 car.

I wouldn't buy an E39 M5 prior to March 2001. Which is a bum for carbon taxation but a boon for vanos, and cam chain issues.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

275 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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julian64 said:
I wouldn't buy an E39 M5 prior to March 2001. Which is a bum for carbon taxation but a boon for vanos, and cam chain issues.
Facelift with Vanos changes was late 2000, so why the March 2001 date?

julian64

14,325 posts

277 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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trooperiziz said:
julian64 said:
I wouldn't buy an E39 M5 prior to March 2001. Which is a bum for carbon taxation but a boon for vanos, and cam chain issues.
Facelift with Vanos changes was late 2000, so why the March 2001 date?
Cos on the bimmer site it gives you engine numbers rather than date. My car was safe only by a hundred cars, and its 2001 March.

I took that to mean there was a manufacture/registration delay meaning dates were unreliable.

Gad-Westy

Original Poster:

16,215 posts

236 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Guess this is not a wise investment then! Whatever the story it does sound like the car has an interesting history and I love imola red but I must admit I'd prefer a facelift car.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

275 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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julian64 said:
trooperiziz said:
julian64 said:
I wouldn't buy an E39 M5 prior to March 2001. Which is a bum for carbon taxation but a boon for vanos, and cam chain issues.
Facelift with Vanos changes was late 2000, so why the March 2001 date?
Cos on the bimmer site it gives you engine numbers rather than date. My car was safe only by a hundred cars, and its 2001 March.

I took that to mean there was a manufacture/registration delay meaning dates were unreliable.
Mine is a late 2000, November I think. Confirmed with BMW that it is a facelift (it has everything a facelift should on the exterior and interior, but I wanted to check to be sure) Mine literally must have been one of the first then!

M3333

2,330 posts

237 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Pferdestarke said:
You need a facelift.

The car silly, not you.

And stay away from wood, it doesn't fit with the otherwise sporty image.
No offence intended but as somebody who strips car interiors to install a whole range of after market equipment, the E39 trim is so easy to change, shirley it is not a huge problem?

Especially if you can use it as a large negotiating tool?


trooperiziz

9,457 posts

275 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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M3333 said:
Pferdestarke said:
You need a facelift.

The car silly, not you.

And stay away from wood, it doesn't fit with the otherwise sporty image.
No offence intended but as somebody who strips car interiors to install a whole range of after market equipment, the E39 trim is so easy to change, shirley it is not a huge problem?

Especially if you can use it as a large negotiating tool?
It's around £600 to change the interior trim and get a new gear stick from BMW, so not the end of the world smile

M3333

2,330 posts

237 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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trooperiziz said:
M3333 said:
Pferdestarke said:
You need a facelift.

The car silly, not you.

And stay away from wood, it doesn't fit with the otherwise sporty image.
No offence intended but as somebody who strips car interiors to install a whole range of after market equipment, the E39 trim is so easy to change, shirley it is not a huge problem?

Especially if you can use it as a large negotiating tool?
It's around £600 to change the interior trim and get a new gear stick from BMW, so not the end of the world smile
Is that parts or Parts + Labour?

The trim simply clips off, its very easy to change. £600 does not seem bad at all depending on the savings involved with the purchase smile

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

275 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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M3333 said:
trooperiziz said:
M3333 said:
Pferdestarke said:
You need a facelift.

The car silly, not you.

And stay away from wood, it doesn't fit with the otherwise sporty image.
No offence intended but as somebody who strips car interiors to install a whole range of after market equipment, the E39 trim is so easy to change, shirley it is not a huge problem?

Especially if you can use it as a large negotiating tool?
It's around £600 to change the interior trim and get a new gear stick from BMW, so not the end of the world smile
Is that parts or Parts + Labour?

The trim simply clips off, its very easy to change. £600 does not seem bad at all depending on the savings involved with the purchase smile
Just for parts, as you say, trim just clips on and off so easy to fit at home.

Chris Doyle

40 posts

208 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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red leather with wood is probably the worse combo i've seen yet. Plus its pre facelift.

Gad-Westy

Original Poster:

16,215 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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Just to affirm, I'm not a fan of the wood trim either but it wouldn't stop me buying a car as I unerstand it's a piece of cake to swap. What I am confused about though is the mix of sport leather and wood trim. Thought ali trim came with sport leather.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

275 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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Gad-Westy said:
Just to affirm, I'm not a fan of the wood trim either but it wouldn't stop me buying a car as I unerstand it's a piece of cake to swap. What I am confused about though is the mix of sport leather and wood trim. Thought ali trim came with sport leather.
Nope, two separate trim options, mine is sports leather and came with wood trim as standard.