Air Tools question ?
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jackal

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306 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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guys, do you use whip hoses or is it not worth it and just connect the tool directly to a quick connector ?


also, is a good add-on regulator the key to getting good torque ?

My wrench is a decent quality twin hammer rated to 400nm+ and the compressor a 3hp 9.2cfm of free air, but at the moment when tightening some wheel lugs it's doing them to around 180nm. I have bought a good quality reg/lubricator/filter but haven't installed it yet so maybe that will help ?

Finally, shoudl i up the pressure a bit for a 15m length of 10mm hose ? Tools are rated for 90psi but maybe incerase it to 100 ?

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I don't use whip hoses on any of mine. It just seems to be the perfect way of damaging paintwork. Plus I've never seen whip hoses in use in garages or tyre fitters.

heebeegeetee

29,876 posts

272 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Pardon my ignorance, but what's a whip hose?

jackal

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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the manuals for the tools say that you shouldnt plug a quick connctor straight into the tool because of vibration

they state you should use a short length of hose or a 'whip hose' first, and then place the PCL onto that

oakdale

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226 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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The 90psi is the pressure required at the tool when it's in operation, not static.
I would set the pressure of the compressor to 150psi (if it will go this high)which should put you in the right area with 10mm i/d hose.
I have always used air tools without a whip hose, but technically you should (only because vibration may cause the connection to pop off, as someome has already said).

oakdale

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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heebeegeetee said:
Pardon my ignorance, but what's a whip hose?
A whip hose is a short length of hose about 60cm long that screws directly to the tool, so that the quick release connection is remote from the tool.

jackal

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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thanks guys

heebeegeetee

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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jackal said:
the manuals for the tools say that you shouldnt plug a quick connctor straight into the tool because of vibration

they state you should use a short length of hose or a 'whip hose' first, and then place the PCL onto that
Ah, I see. I was a bit puzzled, 'cos I googled 'whip hose' and saw a length of hose like the hose i clip my tools into anyway. I see where you're coming from now. smile

agent006 said:
I don't use whip hoses on any of mine. It just seems to be the perfect way of damaging paintwork. Plus I've never seen whip hoses in use in garages or tyre fitters.
So my next question has to be, why would a whip hose damage paintwork more than the air line hose itself?

And do those using whip hoses have a length attached to each and all of their air tools?

agent006

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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heebeegeetee said:
agent006 said:
I don't use whip hoses on any of mine. It just seems to be the perfect way of damaging paintwork. Plus I've never seen whip hoses in use in garages or tyre fitters.
So my next question has to be, why would a whip hose damage paintwork more than the air line hose itself?
Hold an air tool at waist height with a whip hose and you now have a quick release connector swinging around at just the right height to scratch/dent paintwork.

heebeegeetee

29,876 posts

272 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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agent006 said:
heebeegeetee said:
agent006 said:
I don't use whip hoses on any of mine. It just seems to be the perfect way of damaging paintwork. Plus I've never seen whip hoses in use in garages or tyre fitters.
So my next question has to be, why would a whip hose damage paintwork more than the air line hose itself?
Hold an air tool at waist height with a whip hose and you now have a quick release connector swinging around at just the right height to scratch/dent paintwork.
Ah.

Does seem like another connector in the line to wear and leak, too.