seat harnesses

[YAD061]

I'm doing a 1/24th Sea Harrier for a pal and want to add straps to the seat, anyone got any tips? I also want something to replace the HUD with, I saw a model of an F15 where someone had used a sequin or something to get that transclucent effect

[Eric Mc]

Modellers use a variety of materials to simulate seat straps. I've used the following -

Tamiya tape cut into thin strips

Lead foil from a wine bottle - which can be punched to simulate the large holes seen in old style Sutton Harnesses

Some after market specialist manufacturers make photoetched brass straps which can be very detailed. I don't know if any such set exists for 1/24 Harriers.

[wy906]

YAD061 said:

I'm doing a 1/24th Sea Harrier

1/24th? It must be huge! Please post pics when finished.

[Eric Mc]

Presmably the Airfix one.

It originally started life in 1974 as a GR1. The moulds were then modified to represent a GR3 and later a Sea Harrier FRS1 version was done.

[YAD061]

wy906 said:

YAD061 said:

I'm doing a 1/24th Sea Harrier

1/24th? It must be huge! Please post pics when finished.

Got a pic of the cockpit tub but no where to host it.

[Eric Mc]

Not very good, but this is a picture of the original GR1 release from 1974

[dr_gn]

I used this method for the Spitfire:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

They look OK, but not very accurate, and might not be any good for something more modern:



Not 100% sure what you mean by HUD, but for my reflector gunsight I used a rectangle of acetate sheet, scrap brass and a plastic battery connector allcobbled together:



If you wanted it translucent green (or whatever), you can get 'clear' Tamiya acrylic paints, or use Johnsons Klear mixed with a spot of food dye. You could use a paper hole punch if you wanted it round.

Edited by dr_gn on Monday 1st February 15:24

[Shar2]

I would have bought the Flightpath detail set before starting the kit, it includes a wealth of stuff but is a bit pricey.

[dr_gn]

Shar2 said:

I would have bought the Flightpath detail set before starting the kit, it includes a wealth of stuff but is a bit pricey.

Check this out (unless it happens to be yours!):

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

[Morf]

dr_gn said:

Not 100% sure what you mean by HUD, but for my reflector gunsight...

HUD = Head Up Display. reflector gunsight plus 50 years and probably several million quid of development!

Edited by Morf on Monday 1st February 15:45

[dr_gn]

Morf said:

dr_gn said:

Not 100% sure what you mean by HUD, but for my reflector gunsight...

HUD = Head Up Display. reflector gunsight plus 50 years and probably several million dollars of development!

Yep, I know what a HUD is, I just didn't know which bit he was trying to model: the angled plate, the horizontal projector lens, or something else completely.

[Morf]

Ah, got you! I was a bit puzzled at the question, but took it at face value. No insult intended :-)

[YAD061]

dr_gn said:

I used this method for the Spitfire:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

They look OK, but not very accurate, and might not be any good for something more modern:



Not 100% sure what you mean by HUD, but for my reflector gunsight I used a rectangle of acetate sheet, scrap brass and a plastic battery connector allcobbled together:



If you wanted it translucent green (or whatever), you can get 'clear' Tamiya acrylic paints, or use Johnsons Klear mixed with a spot of food dye. You could use a paper hole punch if you wanted it round.

Edited by dr_gn on Monday 1st February 15:24

Cheers Doc, will try and get some tape. The angled plate on the HUD is what I'm looking to replace....hopefully tonight I can upload a pic, you'll see what I mean.

The kit is pretty big and will take a bit of time.....I'm a lazy bast, my eyesight isn't what it was and I feel like Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles when it comes to detail work.


the fuselage appears to have measles, the wings are badly warped and you have to cut the nose off to convert it to an FRS1 too!

Edited by YAD061 on Monday 1st February 15:58

[dr_gn]

YAD061 said:

dr_gn said:

I used this method for the Spitfire:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

They look OK, but not very accurate, and might not be any good for something more modern:



Not 100% sure what you mean by HUD, but for my reflector gunsight I used a rectangle of acetate sheet, scrap brass and a plastic battery connector allcobbled together:



If you wanted it translucent green (or whatever), you can get 'clear' Tamiya acrylic paints, or use Johnsons Klear mixed with a spot of food dye. You could use a paper hole punch if you wanted it round.

Edited by dr_gn on Monday 1st February 15:24

Cheers Doc, will try and get some tape. The angled plate on the HUD is what I'm looking to replace....hopefully tonight I can upload a pic, you'll see what I mean.

The kit is pretty big and will take a bit of time.....I'm a lazy bast, my eyesight isn't what it was and I feel like Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles when it comes to detail work.


the fuselage appears to have measles, the wings are badly warped and you have to cut the nose off to convert it to an FRS1 too!

Edited by YAD061 on Monday 1st February 15:58

It was Tamiya Masking tape by the way.

Good Luck with the model.

Another good link here:

http://tinyurl.com/ycjmkmh

Edited by dr_gn on Monday 1st February 16:10

[dr_gn]

Morf said:

Ah, got you! I was a bit puzzled at the question, but took it at face value. No insult intended :-)

Not at all, the wording of my post was wrong! Sorry for the confusion.

[YAD061]

cracked it, as you can see, I ain't up to dr gns standard. The angled plate has been replaced on one example of an F15 I saw somewhere by something like a sequin. It gave off a rainbow effect through the windscreen that looked very realistic. I figure throwing the usual confusion of belts onto the seat will hide a mutitude of sins too

[dr_gn]

YAD061 said:

cracked it, as you can see, I ain't up to dr gns standard. The angled plate has been replaced on one example of an F15 I saw somewhere by something like a sequin. It gave off a rainbow effect through the windscreen that looked very realistic. I figure throwing the usual confusion of belts onto the seat will hide a mutitude of sins too

My standard? I haven't attempted anything like that (with any real cockpit detail) yet, and yours looks superb to me. I'd be totally happy with it. keep up the good work!

[Shar2]

dr_gn said:

Shar2 said:

I would have bought the Flightpath detail set before starting the kit, it includes a wealth of stuff but is a bit pricey.

Check this out (unless it happens to be yours!):

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

That's impressive. But i'm a lazy modeller and buy the brass/white metal rather than scratch build.

[YAD061]

dr_gn said:

YAD061 said:

cracked it, as you can see, I ain't up to dr gns standard. The angled plate has been replaced on one example of an F15 I saw somewhere by something like a sequin. It gave off a rainbow effect through the windscreen that looked very realistic. I figure throwing the usual confusion of belts onto the seat will hide a mutitude of sins too

My standard? I haven't attempted anything like that (with any real cockpit detail) yet, and yours looks superb to me. I'd be totally happy with it. keep up the good work!

thanks doc, remember I'm at 1/24th though not 1/48

irredescent, that's the word I was looking for