can a school force a child to resit GCSE Exams
can a school force a child to resit GCSE Exams
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spivvy

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1,535 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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my daugther and a number of here friends go A grades in an exam

the school now wants to force them to resit to try and get an A*

surely they can't do this ?



ShadownINja

79,078 posts

302 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Just thinking "aloud". What's the pros and cons? She wouldn't have to reveal when she took them on her CV/application forms would she? The date of the resit might raise questions if it's a few months behind her first ones which might affect whether she gets invited to interview? She'd have the best grade possible, though.

Geoff82

433 posts

242 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Surely the con is if they re-take the exam and get an even lower grader, they're stuck with it?

That's how it worked in my day.

snotrag

15,365 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Geoff82 said:
That's how it worked in my day.
Yup. Not really worth dropping an A-grade is it?

Gun

13,432 posts

238 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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snotrag said:
Geoff82 said:
That's how it worked in my day.
Yup. Not really worth dropping an A-grade is it?
When I was at school, if you re-sat and got a lower mark you kept the higher mark from the previous exam.

bonsai

2,015 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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I know they give A* to about 45% of entrants but surely an A is nothing to be so ashamed about that they're obliged to resit. Weird, weird school.

JB!

5,255 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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She can opt out of resits. I did. Wish I hadn't tho...

A1GOY

1,521 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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School can't force them, they just want their stats to show a higher rate of A* students. Which is a little sick. If your offspring is happy with its grades then let it be.

4nonymous

2,920 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Geoff82 said:
Surely the con is if they re-take the exam and get an even lower grader, they're stuck with it?

That's how it worked in my day.
They take the highest of what you have ever gotten sitting that particular exam.

Mind you that was in my day....

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Your daughter has an ‘A’ grade and will always be entitled to use that grade, regardless of subsequent examination results.

However should she retake the exam and receive a higher grade, she will then become entitled to use that higher grade.

Therefore the only drawbacks to retaking are stress and time. Would retaking interfere with other academic work?

Does your daughter need the higher grade to get into the University of her choice?

Unless there is a compelling reason not to retake, then she should.

Odie

4,187 posts

202 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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What will the school get out of her getting an A*?

Perhaps make noises that you want your daughter to be paid as she is providing a service to the school by trying to increase her grades so that their statistics are increased.

If your daughter is happy with the A grade then tbh why bother in all honesty, GCSE dont mean jot in the greater scheme of things, they are just a means to get into further education which is then a means of getting into higher education.

NDA

23,973 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Odie said:
What will the school get out of her getting an A*?

Perhaps make noises that you want your daughter to be paid as she is providing a service to the school by trying to increase her grades so that their statistics are increased.
Cynical - but undoubtedly true. smile

However, why not resit them? Can't do any harm and, as previously posted, there's no risk of a lower grade.

spivvy

Original Poster:

1,535 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Thanks for the replies

here A Grade Stands even if she retakes

She doesn't need english and wants to get better grades in here science exams anyway

i have contacted the LEA and awating for a reply






N Dentressangle

3,449 posts

242 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Schools can't 'make' children do much these days, especially if this is a state school you're talking about.

I'd have thought a letter / chat with the head would sort this problem out more quickly than involving the LEA, but maybe you've already tried that?

You have to remember that GCSE's aren't actually that important if you're intending to stay in education. As long as they're good enough to get you onto the A level courses you want, that's enough.

A levels are important. The consequences of your grades can shape the rest of your life, depending on what path you take, if you intend staying on in education. OTOH, many people have very successful lives with poor or no qualifications. Just don't waste too much time and energy on this spat over GCSE's: they're not that important to your daughter's future by the sound of the path you're describing.


North West Tom

11,631 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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She might aswell resit. Nothing to lose, unless she needs the tine revising for other exams.

Mrs BlueCerbera

2,208 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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I don't know if they can make her do them Alan, but I would be reluctant for my child to resit in that situation, especially if they had other exams to revise for.


g3org3y

21,874 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Surprising attitude from the school.

Which subject? English (Lit/Lang) from what I can gather?


As mentioned GCSEs aren't 'that' important in terms of academia for university application. Afaik, it is based on AS grades (done at the end of A Level year 1) and predicted grades for A2. I'd advise her to concentrate on good extra-curricular activites (and achievement to show for it) especially if she is considering application to competitive subjects such as medicine or law as students fighting for these typically all have 3(+) As for A Level.

For AS/A2 modules, iirc if you resat a module, you could have the highest of either sitting. However, it you resat it a second time, the 1st and 2nd attempt were 'erased' and you ended up with whatever you got in attempt 3.

I got 2As in my GCSEs (nothing to be ashamed of smile).




pokethepope

2,666 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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What does your daughter say? Presumably she is 15 or 16, I think you should let her make the decision. Explain the pro's and con's to her, but give her full responsibility and go with what she says.

wiffmaster

2,615 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Wouldn't bother personally. The 'A' grade does not preclude her from sitting any A-level. The reason they want her to re-sit is to improve their league table scores; it has sod-all to do with your daughter's prospects.

Despite what the media and overly fussy teachers would have you believe, the top universities really don't care about GCSE grades. They'll offer a place based primarily on A-level grades/prediction, followed by what they thought of you at interview, followed by extra-curricular activities, followed by your economic background. They really won't give any thought to the difference between an A and A* at GCSE. Time wasted re-sitting could be better spent on getting ahead with her AS course. Actually, the time wasted re-sitting could be better spent down the pub, considering all the good the * grade would do...

Edited by wiffmaster on Tuesday 2nd February 12:50

standfree93

3,001 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Gun said:
snotrag said:
Geoff82 said:
That's how it worked in my day.
Yup. Not really worth dropping an A-grade is it?
When I was at school, if you re-sat and got a lower mark you kept the higher mark from the previous exam.
Yup, i'm still at school and when I did my standard grades (as it is in Scotland), You do prelims, then the final exam, and if your grade in the prelim is better than you can appeal to get that grade.