New garage and drive
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tomw2000

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2,508 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Currently having a new garage built and a new drive surface put down.
I've a couple of questions.

1) ok, I realise we started in January and the weather/temperature is a pain, BUT we've dug out the old drive surface and put down some hardcore. Which I am more than happy to have a go on the roller and roll myself. Thing is, much of it is currently too wet, sodden. I appreciate it has to dry out. But was there ever a way of putting down and rolling the hardcore such that it would have coped better with the wet (either rain or snow/ice then melting)?
I think the hardcore being delivered v. damp/wet and then sat out in rain/snow and then spread down (with the intention of rolling - but it's not possible due to it being do wet) has mean't the process is taking longer than it ought.

2) We hired a JCB for the guys who are doing the base (and any block/brick work) to use. It punctured the other day. Who should pay to fix the puncture? The guy gave me the repair invoice and I asked why he was giving it to me. I can see why he doesn't think he should pay - it's not his digger. But as the client, I don't see it being my cost either? It's not a deal breaker, I was just interested to hear thoughts.

I am sure I'll think of some other questions too smile

Cheers

sherman

14,584 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Could you not of added cement dust to the hardcore?

tomw2000

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213 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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sherman said:
Could you not of added cement dust to the hardcore?
I don't know, hence the questions. Building isn't really my forte smile

So any comments/ideas welcome.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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A membrane might have helped, but you will have to wait for it to dry out to be able to fully compact it. In time, it will dry out anyway, but as the water leaves, it will sink.

As for the JCB, contact who-ever you hired it from, they may pay.

Spudler

3,985 posts

214 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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confused Never had problem with wet hardcore before, if that was the case the construction industry would come to a halt in the winter. Frost is the one you need to be careful of, if spread and compacted it will sink when it thaws. Re the digger, its best to leave the builders to supply all plant and materials then it saves and arguments over whose problem it is. Nowadays builders never charge the full retail price on materials etc so from your point your not really saving yourself much...if anything.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Type 1 actually works better when laid and compacted wet. It dries out well and bonds together a bit. As has been suggested a bit of cement mixed in makes it tie together really well.

Re: the puncture I'd say it's down to you. If they had quoted you for the job and were arranging everything then down to the builders. Sounds like you are acting as main contractor, getting in sub contractors and arranging plant and materials. Mechanical faults are down to the hire company but damage ( including punctures) are down to you.

Hope that helps.

Henry smile

tomw2000

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213 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Hardcore on the drive is ace today, because it's frozen solid smile

We're just going to have to wait for it to thaw and hope for a few days of dry weather to dry it out and then get it rolled/topped up/rolled proper, I think.

Of course we'll pay for puncture. We've a friend co-ordinating all the work for us. So he hired the JCB. I guess if we'd gone to a big building firm and they'd been doing everything, they'd have covered the cost of the puncture on their digger.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Spudler said:
confused Never had problem with wet hardcore before, if that was the case the construction industry would come to a halt in the winter. Frost is the one you need to be careful of, if spread and compacted it will sink when it thaws. Re the digger, its best to leave the builders to supply all plant and materials then it saves and arguments over whose problem it is. Nowadays builders never charge the full retail price on materials etc so from your point your not really saving yourself much...if anything.
Correct, I meant frozen, not waterlogged.

Sorry.