rant......Another slice of heritage gone Cadbury.
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Debt laden American company purchase very profitable British company.
Yeah, this will end well for the workers. Not.
Remeber Terrys Of York. Then it was bought over. Then it was just Terrys. Now all their products taste cheap, awful and gritty.
Sad day.
Yeah, this will end well for the workers. Not.
Remeber Terrys Of York. Then it was bought over. Then it was just Terrys. Now all their products taste cheap, awful and gritty.
Sad day.
Edited by skyslimit on Tuesday 2nd February 23:14
Might help if you'd posted on the original thread rather than starting a new one.
Cadbury when will it be sweet enough
As said on that thread, Terry's was a different case, Cadbury's will go from strength to strength. They have a good product which will stand up.
Green and Black's good question, they too will go from strength to strength, personally I'd like to see them taking on the Lindt Excellence range.
Cadbury when will it be sweet enough
As said on that thread, Terry's was a different case, Cadbury's will go from strength to strength. They have a good product which will stand up.
Green and Black's good question, they too will go from strength to strength, personally I'd like to see them taking on the Lindt Excellence range.
Historically, Cadburys themselves have taken over and absorbed other brands. As has been mentioned, Green and Blacks was a fairly recent acquisition. Back in the early 20th Century they bought out Frys although they kept the Frys brand alive well into the 1970s.
Anyone remember
Fry's Turkish Delight
Fry's Chocolate Cream
Fry's Crunchie
Fry's Cocoa
In fact, it looks like Fry's Chocolate Cream is still available - although guess where Cadburys moved the production - Poland..
Anyone remember
Fry's Turkish Delight
Fry's Chocolate Cream
Fry's Crunchie
Fry's Cocoa
In fact, it looks like Fry's Chocolate Cream is still available - although guess where Cadburys moved the production - Poland..
Dont care where its made...its all junk food.A couple of weeks ago I went to my Grandad's funeral and to my surprise found that a fair bit of the extended family had or do work at Cadburys. As soon as the service was over the witterings about "workers" and job cuts started.
Cadbury products will still need to be made and they will keep on making some of it in the UK (what % of the Cadbury's workforce is in UK? It's not a large one...).
The jobs will be lost at the management level. There will likely be a very large change in business processes and company structure and relatively shortly after the profitability of Cadburys will increase markedly. The people in the factory will remain the same, doing similar things to what they are doing now. The Union's moaning about staff cuts to improve profit clearly haven't done their homework or even spoken to their colleagues who have been working on the changes at Kraft over the last few years.
Cadbury products will still need to be made and they will keep on making some of it in the UK (what % of the Cadbury's workforce is in UK? It's not a large one...).
The jobs will be lost at the management level. There will likely be a very large change in business processes and company structure and relatively shortly after the profitability of Cadburys will increase markedly. The people in the factory will remain the same, doing similar things to what they are doing now. The Union's moaning about staff cuts to improve profit clearly haven't done their homework or even spoken to their colleagues who have been working on the changes at Kraft over the last few years.
The main sadness about the takeover is not the fact that it is now part of a large multi-national, but Cadburys was a rather unique company with a definite ethos and atitude to their staff - which had its roots in the Quaker traditions of the Cadbury family.
That will undoubtredly vanish - wherever the jobs end up.
That will undoubtredly vanish - wherever the jobs end up.
Eric,
From experience of being an outsider working at both, I personally feel that in their current iterations, Kraft staff are treated better than those at Cadburys. I'm sure there are are others who do not feel the same way though. It will be interesting to see how the Quaker legacy continues, when I was at Cadburys there was pensioners lunch once a week which seemed to go down well.
From experience of being an outsider working at both, I personally feel that in their current iterations, Kraft staff are treated better than those at Cadburys. I'm sure there are are others who do not feel the same way though. It will be interesting to see how the Quaker legacy continues, when I was at Cadburys there was pensioners lunch once a week which seemed to go down well.
Eric Mc said:
okgo said:
get a grip, ffs, cadbury chocolate tastes like s
t at the best of times.
I think you will find that comments such as that are pretty imbecilic in the context of this discussion.t at the best of times.I like Cadburys chocolate as it happens - and I hate Kraft "cheese".
It taste VERY average as it is, so I can't see Kraft making it much worse.
okgo said:
Eric Mc said:
okgo said:
get a grip, ffs, cadbury chocolate tastes like st at the best of times.
I think you will find that comments such as that are pretty imbecilic in the context of this discussion.t at the best of times.I like Cadburys chocolate as it happens - and I hate Kraft "cheese".
It taste VERY average as it is, so I can't see Kraft making it much worse.
Eric Mc said:
okgo said:
get a grip, ffs, cadbury chocolate tastes like st at the best of times.
I think you will find that comments such as that are pretty imbecilic in the context of this discussion.t at the best of times.I like Cadburys chocolate as it happens - and I hate Kraft "cheese".
As an example, you can go to your local supermarket and see Milka chocolate on sale alongside other brands including Cadbury. You don't see the opposite case in many other countries.
This is what Kraft will bring to the Cadbury brand. Personally I'm not that struck with the taste of Milka, or Marabou, another of Kraft's chocolate brands. But what cannot be denied is that these brands have grown and not suffered under Kraft ownership.
I have no thoughts on Kraft cheese, although Philadelphia has some uses, although would never swap it for a bit of farmhouse Wensleydale, chalk and cheese.
Kraft will be looking to cut costs by harmonising their back office procedures - they don't need those jobs (HR, Finance etc) being done by both Kraft & Cadburys staff. It would be easy to reduce the total number of staff whilst increasing the output of the remaining. Interestingly, it's generally easier and cheaper to lay off staff in the US than here, so it may well be Kraft employee in the States that will feel the brunt of this merger.
Anyone willing to bet me a tenner that cadbury's won't be manufactured in the UK in 2 years time?
BBC economics bloke on TV last night expounding that foriegn ownership isn't all bad.
Then proceded to use Asda/Walmart as an example.
Well duh....it's not like they could move Asda stores abroad ya muppet, people won't go to poland for a weekly shop.
Manufacturing industry is a completely different kettle of fish.
BBC economics bloke on TV last night expounding that foriegn ownership isn't all bad.
Then proceded to use Asda/Walmart as an example.
Well duh....it's not like they could move Asda stores abroad ya muppet, people won't go to poland for a weekly shop.
Manufacturing industry is a completely different kettle of fish.
okgo said:
It taste VERY average as it is, so I can't see Kraft making it much worse.
As something of an expert in these matters, I am happy to be able to inform you that Cadbury's chocolate tastes better than any of the others. Their Easter eggs are particularly good.What Kraft want, of course, is Cadbury's brands, which people will keep on buying because they are better than the others but no more expensive. They will make them wherever is cheapest and will probably, over time, reduce the quality.
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