Windows 7 64bit simply isn't ready for a Media PC yet....
Windows 7 64bit simply isn't ready for a Media PC yet....
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beanbag

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7,346 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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This isn't a rant or a stab at one OS, etc....it's just a bit of advice for those thinking of upgrading to a 64bit version of Windows for their Media PC.

After using Windows XP Media Centre Edition, then Windows Vista, I was quick to jump on the bandwagon for Windows 7 for my Media PC. Especially since it supports Blu-Ray natively.

However as a bit of a change, I decided to take the 64bit route as my HTPC has 4GB of RAM installed. I also managed to find all the 64bit codecs through the K-Lite codec package.

I ran the 64bit system for 2 months and it was a miserable experience. I experienced frequent lock-ups. Movies wouldn't play, I had huge problems with my FLAC codecs and worse issues with FFShow and VobSub. MKV files were the worst with the Matroska filter crashing or locking up half-way through a movie.

It's clear that the 64bit codecs are simply not ready for day-to-day use and it's all very experimental. For office use however, it's fine.

Ultimately I ended up downgrading to Windows 7 32bit and everything works perfectly. Again I used the K-Lite codec package and that works without a hitch. The system doesn't lock up and the VobSub filter works perfectly.

Anyone else had bad experiences with 64bit Windows when used for an HTPC?

(Keep in mind I use Windows 7 Pro 64 on my laptop and it's perfect).

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Installed it, found that the Hauppauge tuner stuff either only just worked or there were no drivers at all (depending on the card/stick), uninstalled and stuck with 32 bit.

beanbag

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7,346 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
Installed it, found that the Hauppauge tuner stuff either only just worked or there were no drivers at all (depending on the card/stick), uninstalled and stuck with 32 bit.
I forgot to mention that too. I've got two Hauppauge HVR-1300 and they locked up whenever I tried to use them. Lucky I don't actually need them any more as all my content is streamed through the internet.

GregE240

10,857 posts

287 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Thanks for the heads up, always good to have first hand experience. Sorry it was so lousy!

Just out of interest, why did you go 64-bit? I know you said you had 4GB RAM and clearly a 64-bit capable motherboard and CPU, but I would have thought that a 32-bit OS would have sufficed as an HTPC. Seems you proved that beyond all doubt! frown

beanbag

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7,346 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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GregE240 said:
Thanks for the heads up, always good to have first hand experience. Sorry it was so lousy!

Just out of interest, why did you go 64-bit? I know you said you had 4GB RAM and clearly a 64-bit capable motherboard and CPU, but I would have thought that a 32-bit OS would have sufficed as an HTPC. Seems you proved that beyond all doubt! frown
I've read on benchmarks that 64bit is slightly quicker than 32bit, plus since I'm always bumping up my RAM, it made sense so I wouldn't have to upgrade later.

I also believe 64bit is the way forward however I don't blame Microsoft. It's down to the codec developers for being so slow to evolve.

It's a shame really as I run 64bit Win7Pro on my lappy and it's lightning quick. Especially with Photoshop 64bit.

I love staying on the edge of technology and trying new stuff out. I even attempted to use XP 64bit but it just didn't have the driver support for it. (Again 3rd party manufacturer laziness). It was the same story for Vista.

I don't get why hardware and software coders are so reluctant to take the 64bit route when it's clearly the future!

Edited by beanbag on Wednesday 3rd February 14:37

LordGrover

33,959 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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There's your problem I'm afraid - it's the future, not today.
Too many short-sighted and/or short-funded developers.

onlynik

4,069 posts

213 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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You don't need the 64 bit K-lite codec pack, the 32 bit drivers work just fine.

FWIW I have no issues with Win 7 smile

Ian_T

258 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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I've been running 64-bit Win 7 MC for about 6 months now.. no issues with anything really. A strange problem where .avi files of US series have mismatched lip-sync when playing in Media Centre, but play just fine with the PowerDVD that came with the Bluray drive... odd, and just mildy irritating as the remote works fine with that as well.


Edited by Ian_T on Wednesday 3rd February 16:57

off_again

13,917 posts

254 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Good to hear the feedback but I fear it is just a little too late for a friend of mine. He just installed more RAM and upgraded his media PC to Windows 7 64-bit. Looks like he will be spending some time rolling back or hacking his way through the minimum setup he has.

Shame as from what I gather, Windows 7 64-bit is actually quite good in other areas.

Scraggles

7,619 posts

244 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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running win 7 64 bit home premium as a games machine with 100GB + of movies and music

both work fine, was surprised that WMP knows what to do with avi, but prefer VLC and winamp combo smile

the media centre built in works really well

tv not installed and never will be