New Turbo or Nearly New GT3
Discussion
I am considering the above and my dealer has just rung to say he can now get me a new Turbo and its on hold. However, we have been looking at a 53 reg GT3 Clubsport.
Currently have a Tuscan S and the GT3 is more of that ilk if a little slower in a straight line. We havent been bale to try the GT3 yet but we did like the Turbo.
The problem, if we wait on the Turbo for a drive in the GT3 we will lose the Turbo?? Any advice as to the differnces can you fel the straight line speed difference between the Turbo and GT3??? HELP
Currently have a Tuscan S and the GT3 is more of that ilk if a little slower in a straight line. We havent been bale to try the GT3 yet but we did like the Turbo.
The problem, if we wait on the Turbo for a drive in the GT3 we will lose the Turbo?? Any advice as to the differnces can you fel the straight line speed difference between the Turbo and GT3??? HELP
The GT3 is much closer to a TVR in character and personality than the Turbo. If you want the best roadgoing sportscar in the world, buy the Turbo and forget the GT3. If you want something that can go on the odd trackday and not be outclassed, get the GT3.
The Turbo IS quicker in a straight line, but on a dry circuit there is really nothing in it from my estimation (largely based on Daz in his X50 996tt being chased by Gary in his GT3 Mk2). The tiny advantage the Turbo has blasting out of corners, the GT3 regains by carrying more speed through them.
Just think... are you a 'straights' or a 'corners' kind of guy?
In the wet, the Turbo has a distinct advantage. The GT3 is lively to the point of being very much 'old school' 911 in terms of tail happiness. Great fun but not one that the missus could leap into on a rainy day when late for the hairdressers. If you need more practicality (rear seats, all weather ability, PSM and other gadgets), go for the Turbo.
My personal choice would be the GT3 Clubsport as it is huge fun, but I am firmly in the lightweight-Porsche-nutter camp, so beware of my warped opinions. I also think the GT3 CS will hold its value better over the next decade, as evidenced by a typical 993RS being generally worth the same or even more than a 993 Turbo, despite the Turbo's c15k premium when new.
Nice decision to have to make, BTW
The Turbo IS quicker in a straight line, but on a dry circuit there is really nothing in it from my estimation (largely based on Daz in his X50 996tt being chased by Gary in his GT3 Mk2). The tiny advantage the Turbo has blasting out of corners, the GT3 regains by carrying more speed through them.
Just think... are you a 'straights' or a 'corners' kind of guy?
In the wet, the Turbo has a distinct advantage. The GT3 is lively to the point of being very much 'old school' 911 in terms of tail happiness. Great fun but not one that the missus could leap into on a rainy day when late for the hairdressers. If you need more practicality (rear seats, all weather ability, PSM and other gadgets), go for the Turbo.
My personal choice would be the GT3 Clubsport as it is huge fun, but I am firmly in the lightweight-Porsche-nutter camp, so beware of my warped opinions. I also think the GT3 CS will hold its value better over the next decade, as evidenced by a typical 993RS being generally worth the same or even more than a 993 Turbo, despite the Turbo's c15k premium when new.
Nice decision to have to make, BTW
I should have said 'most missuses'.Totally agree with Dom, however my everyday car would have to be the Turbo, especially if you intend to do over 10K per year.
Suggestion--
Why not buy a 993 Turbo for everyday and a earlier RS for track days
Would be about the same money!!
Again agree with Dom, nice to have the choice.
Suggestion--
Why not buy a 993 Turbo for everyday and a earlier RS for track days
Would be about the same money!! Again agree with Dom, nice to have the choice.
Having recently blagged a 2 hour session in the latest GT3 I feel I can comment on this now..
The GT3 and the Turbo really are very different cars IMO. Like chalk and fromage as it where.
The Turbo is a big pussycat - it can be easy going and quite capable of chilling out on the way to Sainsburys and back. On a wet and stormy night, it will let you take it easy and see you safely home.
The GT3 , however, is quite a bit wilder. It will demand your attention, insist that you respect it, and give a wonderful rush in the process.
In a Turbo you can put your favourite CD on and play the air drums on the steering wheel if you the drive is dull and the traffic is heavy. In the GT3 you'll be listening to the engine, aware of the extra noise, and the fact that you don't have any traction control and the engine is waaay out there at the back somewhere...
If you love the Tuscan S experience and want more - get the GT3. If you want more flexibility and a Jekyll and Hide character - get the Turbo.
IMO, of course
Me -I'd get the GT3
But then it would not be my only car...
The GT3 and the Turbo really are very different cars IMO. Like chalk and fromage as it where.
The Turbo is a big pussycat - it can be easy going and quite capable of chilling out on the way to Sainsburys and back. On a wet and stormy night, it will let you take it easy and see you safely home.
The GT3 , however, is quite a bit wilder. It will demand your attention, insist that you respect it, and give a wonderful rush in the process.
In a Turbo you can put your favourite CD on and play the air drums on the steering wheel if you the drive is dull and the traffic is heavy. In the GT3 you'll be listening to the engine, aware of the extra noise, and the fact that you don't have any traction control and the engine is waaay out there at the back somewhere...
If you love the Tuscan S experience and want more - get the GT3. If you want more flexibility and a Jekyll and Hide character - get the Turbo.
IMO, of course
Me -I'd get the GT3
But then it would not be my only car...
Personally if you could only have one I'd go for a turbo (I did). If I was buying a 911 as a trackday car ie 10+days per year I'd have gone for the GT3.
The 4WD PSM etc of the turbo allows progress to be made in an manner I previosuly never thought possible. It brings new meaning to to the term hoonage.
DAZ
The 4WD PSM etc of the turbo allows progress to be made in an manner I previosuly never thought possible. It brings new meaning to to the term hoonage.
DAZ
With the RS6 in the garage for blasting about when the weather gets crap go for the GT3CS, a superb complimentary pair to own 
. Drive it first though as the suspension is very hard, it's also 30cm lower than normal 996 and 20mm lower than the 996 turbo, so ramps/road obstacles etc can be fun.
DAZ
. Drive it first though as the suspension is very hard, it's also 30cm lower than normal 996 and 20mm lower than the 996 turbo, so ramps/road obstacles etc can be fun. DAZ
JamieBeeston said:
If you want to drive, get the GT3. If you want to pose, get the Turbo
Are you saying that The Turbo isnt a Drivers car, but only a Posers car ?
Or am I just being a little touchy
Lance is being a tad unfair in order to make that point. The Turbo is not a posers car (but the cab turbo undoubtedly is
) but an 'all-weather road going drivers car' compared to the less compromised drivers car credentials of the GT3. It is true that driver aids and 4wd take away the ragged edge, so maybe it has a little less driver appeal if you are hairy of chest. The 996tt shouldn't be lightly dismissed, it is probably a more impressive car than a GT3 or GT2 if you look at the bigger picture, but there is no denying it is less raw than a GT3.Straight line speed, I am just used to the extra in the Tuscan S and the love the constant surge of power. What I am really asking is will I notice the difference from 3.8/8.2 to 62/100 in the Tusk down to 4.4/? in the GT3
Dont get me wrong I love the GT3 and I know I just need to get in it so long as they dont sell the damn thing before I do!! Work just gets in the way!!
Dont get me wrong I love the GT3 and I know I just need to get in it so long as they dont sell the damn thing before I do!! Work just gets in the way!!
IMHO, the GT3 Mk2 CS also sounds appreciably nicer in the cabin than the 996TT. ie it makes the most glorious soundtrack imaginable, capable of stirring the hairs on the nape of your neck into maximum arousal.
The GT3 still does 0-100 in 9.4 so it isn't slow. You have to remember that the traction of a 911 means that full bore starts are less tricky than in a front engined Tuscan, but yes it will feel a fraction slower. The GT2 redresses the balance as Rico says, but is a much lairier proposition and probably one for the experts only on track or in the wet.
Take a day off work with a sicky and get your arse into the bucket seat of a GT3 Mk2 and you will be grinning like a baby for a week afterwards, longer if you buy it. Alternatively, buy a second hand 996TT for 69950 and a Caterham Superlight R.
The GT3 still does 0-100 in 9.4 so it isn't slow. You have to remember that the traction of a 911 means that full bore starts are less tricky than in a front engined Tuscan, but yes it will feel a fraction slower. The GT2 redresses the balance as Rico says, but is a much lairier proposition and probably one for the experts only on track or in the wet.
Take a day off work with a sicky and get your arse into the bucket seat of a GT3 Mk2 and you will be grinning like a baby for a week afterwards, longer if you buy it. Alternatively, buy a second hand 996TT for 69950 and a Caterham Superlight R.
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