Shake on it
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T5R+

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1,226 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Recently read a lot of threads on PH about what some of us may consider underhand or unscrupulous approaches to things/life.

Do people still "shake on a deal" or approach life with "my word is my bond". Subsequently, honouring any commitment even if they lose out?

ellroy

7,835 posts

255 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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yes. you've got to face yourself in the mirror.


Gaspode

4,167 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Absolutely. It's about all we have to distinguish ourselves from the scum.

Hooty

398 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Mike Brewer recommends it on Wheeler Dealers. He's always telling people to "put yer 'and out feller" and shake on it. I despise him with every cell in my body. Cockney cock.

Gaspode

4,167 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Hooty said:
Mike Brewer recommends it on Wheeler Dealers. He's always telling people to "put yer 'and out feller" and shake on it. I despise him with every cell in my body. Cockney cock.
Mike Brewer is definitely a cock, but that doesn't mean honouring one's word is a bad thing...

V8mate

45,899 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.

Mobile Chicane

22,010 posts

242 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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V8mate said:
T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.
Agreed. 'Tell the customer what they need to hear in order to sign the cheque, then pass the responsibility for delivering what you promised to someone else' seemingly being the order of the day.

Not that I'm cynical, or anything...

Hooty

398 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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V8mate said:
T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.
That's because it's foolish. Important things need to be written down in a contract. This concept of a handshake is very noble but has never really been the case and will lead to your downfall if the issue being agreed upon is even slightly complicated. A romantic fallacy.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
V8mate said:
T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.
Agreed. 'Tell the customer what they need to hear in order to sign the cheque, then pass the responsibility for delivering what you promised to someone else' seemingly being the order of the day.

Not that I'm cynical, or anything...
A handshake is better than a signature in my book.

V8mate

45,899 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Hooty said:
V8mate said:
T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.
That's because it's foolish. Important things need to be written down in a contract. This concept of a handshake is very noble but has never really been the case and will lead to your downfall if the issue being agreed upon is even slightly complicated. A romantic fallacy.
I should issue a contract everytime I get a colleague to agree to do something for me by a certain date?

Poledriver

29,597 posts

224 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
Agreed. 'Tell the customer what they need to hear in order to sign the cheque, then pass the responsibility for delivering what you promised to someone else' seemingly being the order of the day.

Not that I'm cynical, or anything...
I've had so many rows with various people I've worked for/with because I refuse to:-
a) Make a promise that is not in my control to keep.
b) promise something which I know I can't deliver!

It's much easier than having to lie when it goes pear-shaped!

Hooty

398 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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V8mate said:
Hooty said:
V8mate said:
T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.
That's because it's foolish. Important things need to be written down in a contract. This concept of a handshake is very noble but has never really been the case and will lead to your downfall if the issue being agreed upon is even slightly complicated. A romantic fallacy.
I should issue a contract everytime I get a colleague to agree to do something for me by a certain date?
No, I recommend shaking their hands each time and telling them that your word is your bond!

silly

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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A deal is a deal is a deal.

Blib

48,141 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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You can con someone once. You can do business with them one thousand times.

V8mate

45,899 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Hooty said:
V8mate said:
Hooty said:
V8mate said:
T5R+ said:
"my word is my bond".
Certainly a value I live by (and, especially, work by).

Hardly meet anyone at work who has the same standards though.
That's because it's foolish. Important things need to be written down in a contract. This concept of a handshake is very noble but has never really been the case and will lead to your downfall if the issue being agreed upon is even slightly complicated. A romantic fallacy.
I should issue a contract everytime I get a colleague to agree to do something for me by a certain date?
No, I recommend shaking their hands each time and telling them that your word is your bond!

silly
But my bond wasn't in question.

It's the other reneging muthfkers rage

NiceCupOfTea

25,592 posts

281 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Hooty said:
Mike Brewer recommends it on Wheeler Dealers. He's always telling people to "put yer 'and out feller" and shake on it. I despise him with every cell in my body. Cockney cock.
"oleatcherandenlessavadeal, fella"