Experience of Rockbox firmware on iPod to play FLAC files?

Experience of Rockbox firmware on iPod to play FLAC files?

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fergus

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276 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Hi, anyone got any experience with Rockbox firmware on their iPod to allow playback of lossless FLAC files?

Willie Dee

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209 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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fergus said:
Hi, anyone got any experience with Rockbox firmware on their iPod to allow playback of lossless FLAC files?
Sorry I dont, but curious, how come you dont just encode into applelossless from the flac file?

fergus

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Thursday 4th February 2010
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Because I want to keep the music in the most generic format for a range of DACs. If I store all my 'master copies' in FLAC, they are system independent.

I'll look into your suggestion though.... scratchchinthumbup

Willie Dee

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209 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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fergus said:
Because I want to keep the music in the most generic format for a range of DACs. If I store all my 'master copies' in FLAC, they are system independent.

I'll look into your suggestion though.... scratchchinthumbup
Make copies of the files that you want on the iPod and then just convert everything you want, so have both FLAC and Applelossless versions?

fergus

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Thursday 4th February 2010
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Willie Dee said:
fergus said:
Because I want to keep the music in the most generic format for a range of DACs. If I store all my 'master copies' in FLAC, they are system independent.

I'll look into your suggestion though.... scratchchinthumbup
Make copies of the files that you want on the iPod and then just convert everything you want, so have both FLAC and Applelossless versions?
I know storage is cheap now, but by the time I've ripped circa 500 CDs twice, some of the music will have gone out of fashion then become 'retro' again! rofl

Bullett

10,889 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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On a similar note whats the best space to quality codec to use.

I have an Ipod touch, PS3 and Squeezebox for playback (+ a PC) 10-15k tracks.

Willie Dee

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209 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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fergus said:
Willie Dee said:
fergus said:
Because I want to keep the music in the most generic format for a range of DACs. If I store all my 'master copies' in FLAC, they are system independent.

I'll look into your suggestion though.... scratchchinthumbup
Make copies of the files that you want on the iPod and then just convert everything you want, so have both FLAC and Applelossless versions?
I know storage is cheap now, but by the time I've ripped circa 500 CDs twice, some of the music will have gone out of fashion then become 'retro' again! rofl
Haha! No need to rip the CD's mind. Use a converter like DBpoweramp music converter to convert the files you want, but rather than replace the FLAC file, create a copy but in apple lossless instead, shouldn't take 24 hours or so if all your music is in one place.

mackie1

8,153 posts

234 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Best commonly supported lossy format is probably AAC but there's probably something new and wonderful that I don't know about.

Dave^

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254 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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You need to point 'Dibby' in this thread's direciton...

Dibby

423 posts

201 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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  • fanfare* Here he is!
What do you want to know about it?

I use it for FLAC all the time, works like a treat.

I'm sick of being buttoned down to Apples proprietary formats, connectors, software etc so went with Rockbox and I can play music from the PC on the ipod and other MP3 players without having to convert it or use some dumbed down POS software because Steve Jobs tells me to

fergus

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Friday 5th February 2010
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Dibby said:
What do you want to know about it?

I use it for FLAC all the time, works like a treat.
After installation, how easy it is to navigate the menus, and can it be installed as (almost) a plug and play OS? I'm very rusty on my command line script!

Any problems with bugging soft/firmware with it being open source?

wiffmaster

2,603 posts

199 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Just out of curiosity, why do you want Flac on the ipod? Using a set of headphones on an ipod, you'd be very hard pressed to tell the difference between a well ripped V0 and Flac. Flac by all means on the main system, but I reckon it's a complete waste of time on any sort of portable device.

I have all my files in Flac to play through my main system, but just stick V0 on the ipod. If you get Foobar and have all your Flac files tagged correctly, you can make an AAC/MP3 copy of your files with just a couple of clicks.

Dibby

423 posts

201 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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It's more than that Whiff, you can do away with Foobar/ MediaMonkey/ Winamp/ iTunes to load music on all together, copy-paste straight from any Windows/ Linux/ Apple machine just like a memory card. You can do away with Apple's method of scattering your music files randomly and relying on a database behind it to pull all the info together. It opens up so much more functionality with a proper graphic equaliser, stereo width, fade-in & out, mix mode get right down into setting disk spindown times and all, you can change themes and skins, display exactly what you want from the ID3 tags on your playing screen.

You can certainly hear the difference between V0 and FLAC through a decent pair of headphones. The standard Apple ones are crap but a set of £20 Sennheisers and you'll hear the difference easily, it's richer and bassier.

fergus said:
Dibby said:
What do you want to know about it?

I use it for FLAC all the time, works like a treat.
After installation, how easy it is to navigate the menus, and can it be installed as (almost) a plug and play OS? I'm very rusty on my command line script!

Any problems with bugging soft/firmware with it being open source?
Very easy to use now, they have official releases out now so no command prompt bashing any more, it's all installed through a nice little GUI. The releases are stable and solid, latest daily builds can be a bit buggy. Version 3.4 is the latest but 3.5 isn't far away.

No need to wipe the ipod (but best to back up your music just in case), it installs as a dual boot, flick the hold switch on when you turn the ipod on to get back into Apple (Fisher Price) firmware.

It takes a bit of getting used, use RW button to go back up a menu level instead of MENU but once I got used to it I won't be going back. I like that you can alter the text size so in the car you can have a nice big font and for other stuff have a smaller, tidier font for everything.