Off topic ---------- Monaro vrs Cayenne

[bbg1400]

Having discussed recently that I need 4 doors and a towbar I'm contemplating changing my 06 CV8 for a Cayenne S 4.5 of around the same age. Does anyone have any experience of these cars. What are they like to live with.
Also is there anywhere in particular where I can advertise my Ro where I'll get a reasonable return on it as it only has 15k miles and is spotless and standard (apart from badge's changed to holden)

[anonymous-user]

I can recommend the LR Discovery 3. It's without doubt the nicest car I have ever owned. Lofty driving position and loads of room, gadgets and comfort. You also know you are driving the real deal when it comes to off roaders, unlike the Porsche. Take a drive in a diesel SE or HSE and make your own mind up but I love mine.

[monkfish1]

bbg1400 said:

Having discussed recently that I need 4 doors and a towbar I'm contemplating changing my 06 CV8 for a Cayenne S 4.5 of around the same age. Does anyone have any experience of these cars. What are they like to live with.
Also is there anywhere in particular where I can advertise my Ro where I'll get a reasonable return on it as it only has 15k miles and is spotless and standard (apart from badge's changed to holden)

Cant say i know what they are like to live with, but i do work on them. A very very different deal from a monaro. Very comfortable etc, but not what i would call inspiring to drive.

[S800VXR]

Wormus - I think the man wanted to keep some street cred!

LR are fine if your a farmer or old.... (how many sheep do you have BTW?)

[anonymous-user]

S800VXR said:

Wormus - I think the man wanted to keep some street cred!

LR are fine if your a farmer or old.... (how many sheep do you have BTW?)

...says the man with the Clio!

[neiljohnson]

Basically an overpriced vw they eat tyres at a scary rate (can do a set in 3k) and service costs are high compared to the vw although the turbos are quick for such a big car!

[bbg1400]

The monaro eats tyres at 7k miles to a set. Killing off the edges. The cayenne can't be much worse than that, Can it ???.

I don't use the V8 to commute. It's only a weekend car. I have a Insignia estate for that.

I have looked at LR products (tried a LR Sport) but they seem dated and uninspiring. The cabin space is a bit cramped up front too.

The cayenne is 450bhp, 6 sec etc. Its ugly in a good way and looked hopefull. I have tried and liked the toureg but it is just a VW. For similar money you can get something with nearly twice the performance.

[bbg1400]

The monaro eats tyres at 7k miles to a set. Killing off the edges. The cayenne can't be much worse than that, Can it ???.

I don't use the V8 to commute. It's only a weekend car. I have a Insignia estate for that.

I have looked at LR products (tried a LR Sport) but they seem dated and uninspiring. The cabin space is a bit cramped up front too.

The cayenne is 450bhp, 6 sec etc. Its ugly in a good way and looked hopefull. I have tried and liked the toureg but it is just a VW. For similar money you can get something with nearly twice the performance.

[bbg1400]

neiljohnson said:

Basically an overpriced vw they eat tyres at a scary rate (can do a set in 3k) and service costs are high compared to the vw although the turbos are quick for such a big car!

I have checked out service consumables and was not too shocked. Filters around £10 each retail. Not tried trade yet but not too worried there. I do most of my own servicing as i've not found many garages that can be trusted to cherish other people cars or not road test them to the full.

[paramoreg]

Cayenne is a quick car, they really do eat tyres scarily quickly but for me, looks are dire, Range Rover Sport (TDV8?) out of the question? My neighbour just bought a Rangey, would definitely be my choice of such a car

Edited by paramoreg on Sunday 7th February 20:05

[anonymous-user]

bbg1400 said:

I don't use the V8 to commute. It's only a weekend car. I have a Insignia estate for that.

I have looked at LR products (tried a LR Sport) but they seem dated and uninspiring. The cabin space is a bit cramped up front too.

The cayenne is 450bhp, 6 sec etc. Its ugly in a good way and looked hopefull. I have tried and liked the toureg but it is just a VW. For similar money you can get something with nearly twice the performance.

The cayenne is ugly in an ugly way and a man who drives a Vauxhall shouldn't knock VW. Touregs are nice cars and go like stink in V10 form.

The 'LR sport' is a Range Rover which isn't the same as a Disco. Mine will seat 7 adults in comfort. The cayenne is a tart's handbag of a car for footballer's wives. They certainly ain't cool IMHO.

[neiljohnson]

bbg1400 said:

neiljohnson said:

Basically an overpriced vw they eat tyres at a scary rate (can do a set in 3k) and service costs are high compared to the vw although the turbos are quick for such a big car!

I have checked out service consumables and was not too shocked. Filters around £10 each retail. Not tried trade yet but not too worried there. I do most of my own servicing as i've not found many garages that can be trusted to cherish other people cars or not road test them to the full.

Parts are cheap enough the problem is porsche do tend to need dealer service history and not many people have the machine to reset the svs light (monkfish can probably help here) tyre wear really is that bad there have been cases where porsche vw and audi have been doing tyres foc for goodwill. 4 x 20 inch or even bigger tyres is a major expense in running them. On the plus they do drive very well but imho if you want petrol an amg ml is a better choice.

[monkfish1]

neiljohnson said:

bbg1400 said:

neiljohnson said:

Basically an overpriced vw they eat tyres at a scary rate (can do a set in 3k) and service costs are high compared to the vw although the turbos are quick for such a big car!

I have checked out service consumables and was not too shocked. Filters around £10 each retail. Not tried trade yet but not too worried there. I do most of my own servicing as i've not found many garages that can be trusted to cherish other people cars or not road test them to the full.

Parts are cheap enough the problem is porsche do tend to need dealer service history and not many people have the machine to reset the svs light (monkfish can probably help here) tyre wear really is that bad there have been cases where porsche vw and audi have been doing tyres foc for goodwill. 4 x 20 inch or even bigger tyres is a major expense in running them. On the plus they do drive very well but imho if you want petrol an amg ml is a better choice.

yes, we can help with that

[monkfish1]

bbg1400 said:

The monaro eats tyres at 7k miles to a set. Killing off the edges. The cayenne can't be much worse than that, Can it ???.

I don't use the V8 to commute. It's only a weekend car. I have a Insignia estate for that.

I have looked at LR products (tried a LR Sport) but they seem dated and uninspiring. The cabin space is a bit cramped up front too.

The cayenne is 450bhp, 6 sec etc. Its ugly in a good way and looked hopefull. I have tried and liked the toureg but it is just a VW. For similar money you can get something with nearly twice the performance.

No reason why your monaro should eat tyres if its set up right. Just not to the factory settings!

[ARAF]

I'm not a fan of the Cayenne, or any of the 4x4 genre. However, contrary to what has been written by some, the Cayenne is very capable off-road. Fuel consumption is scary though - even on the (VW) small engined one.

"Tarts handbag." Said the man that thinks an RR Sport is a Range-Rover Put an RR and an RRS together, and you'll see it just doesn't measure up.

[neiljohnson]

ARAF said:

I'm not a fan of the Cayenne, or any of the 4x4 genre. However, contrary to what has been written by some, the Cayenne is very capable off-road. Fuel consumption is scary though - even on the (VW) small engined one.

"Tarts handbag." Said the man that thinks an RR Sport is a Range-Rover Put an RR and an RRS together, and you'll see it just doesn't measure up.

range rover sport sits on a discovery 3 chassis where the 'proper' range rover is a totally differant design

[ARAF]

neiljohnson said:

ARAF said:

I'm not a fan of the Cayenne, or any of the 4x4 genre. However, contrary to what has been written by some, the Cayenne is very capable off-road. Fuel consumption is scary though - even on the (VW) small engined one.

"Tarts handbag." Said the man that thinks an RR Sport is a Range-Rover Put an RR and an RRS together, and you'll see it just doesn't measure up.

range rover sport sits on a discovery 3 chassis where the 'proper' range rover is a totally differant design

I know. That's why I found it so funny. The RRS is just a dressed up Disco.

[bbg1400]

wormus said:

bbg1400 said:

I have looked at LR products (tried a LR Sport) but they seem dated and uninspiring. The cabin space is a bit cramped up front too.

The cayenne is 450bhp, 6 sec etc. Its ugly in a good way and looked hopefull. I have tried and liked the toureg but it is just a VW. For similar money you can get something with nearly twice the performance.

The cayenne is ugly in an ugly way and a man who drives a Vauxhall shouldn't knock VW. Touregs are nice cars and go like stink in V10 form.

The 'LR sport' is a Range Rover which isn't the same as a Disco. Mine will seat 7 adults in comfort. The cayenne is a tart's handbag of a car for footballer's wives. They certainly ain't cool IMHO.

The Toureg is a nice car, both to drive and as a passenger. Much nicer on the road than the Range rover sport. I don't want a deisel car. I drive one all week. The cayenne just seems to be like a toureg but with more....... for similar money.
My MD just bought a RR Sport for his wife. It replaces a previous model that was always broken in some way for the 3 years she had it. Whenever it went in for repair it came out with something else broken. They like Land rover products and know the trade off is a lack of build quality and reliability. A bit like owning a freeloader 1.8 and knowing it will need a head gasket every year.

[anonymous-user]

I use my disco every day at the moment and do about 400 miles per week. It's been really reliable and is still the bench mark off road.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 13th February 17:43

[stevieturbo]

The new Range Rovers and Disco's really do look superb though. The Porsche Cayenne just looks wrong from every angle.

And surely the Cayenne, regardless of petrol or diesel wouldnt be any faster or a better performer than the V10 Touareg ?

A quick google says they all share the same platform anyway. Cayenne, Touareg and the Audi Q7

Seems Audi do a V12 diesel version, 500hp and 740lbft !!

Edited by stevieturbo on Saturday 13th February 19:36