Brown in tears...
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fastfreddy

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8,577 posts

258 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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So can we be bothered to watch the predictably dull interview between Winky and Piers Morgan next week and will we be moved by his tears?

The interview was recorded in front of a studio audience and the fact that he blubbered was predictably leaked after the recording.

Andrew Marr today asked Alastair Campbell about the programme, which he hoped would help the PM reach a wider audience. Campbell said:

"The only communication that works now really is where people are being utterly authentic."

That's pretty rich coming from him...

"The public, they hear all this stuff about spin, they know the media spin, the politicians do it and they can see when people are being authentic. If Gordon just talks about some of these issues as he really feels then maybe the public will see a different side."

But Mr Campbell said he did not believe the prime minister, whose daughter died in 2002 10 days after being born prematurely, had gone on television "with the purpose of crying".

Now I don't think I'm so hard-hearted and cynical as to criticise a father for crying for his lost child, but in this particular instance I believe there's something else going on here, especially as Campbell was reportedly coaching Brown for the appearance.

Let us also not forget Winky's comments, only a few days ago in the Standard piece, about running the election campaign on policies:

“I am not going to get into personality politics. It is not what I have done in my life.”

And his insistence in the past not to use his family as political tools...

So, I'm afraid there's a good chance this forthcoming tear-fest with Piers Moron is not going to summon up much sympathy from anyone, least of all those families who have lost children in Iraq.

The only reason I'd look forward to watching it if is I knew Winky was secretly a Squonk. Now that would be satisfying...




pano amo

814 posts

257 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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I do hope Brown and Labour get back in. Otherwise its going to be very quiet around here.

Jasandjules

71,793 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Only if his tears were for the country he has brought to rack and ruin....

Other than that, I still have a 0.50 bullet with his name on it.

KANEIT

2,856 posts

240 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Cue more boring and repetitive Brown-bashing................................

GregE240

10,857 posts

288 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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KANEIT said:
Cue more boring and repetitive Brown-bashing................................
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country, and you and me will be paying for this mess we are in for years, you deluded fool.

KANEIT

2,856 posts

240 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

280 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
Sorry I'm a bit lost. Which bit do you disagree with, the fact that this country is ruined or that the fact we are ruined is all his fault?

Skywalker

3,269 posts

235 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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I wouldn't knock anyone for shedding a tear over a dead child.

I would however knock any politician that sheds a crocodile's tears to gain a political advantage in so blatant a manner.

pano amo

814 posts

257 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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"He has single handedly ruined this country"

The country is ruined? No, no, no. Haiti is ruined. Somalia is ruined.

This country is doing that bad. Personal debt is plumetting as people are now saving more. Our borrowing is very high but in line with other leading nations. Property prices have not collapsed. Unemployment has peaked and set to reduce. Interest rates are ridiculously low. Considering the mess most of the world is in, the UK isn't doing half bad.

Now, lets hand it all over to that complete buffoon George Osbourne and let him fix it all up. laugh


Edited by pano amo on Sunday 7th February 20:40


Edited by pano amo on Sunday 7th February 20:40

[AJ]

3,079 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
Come on then, please tell us what good he has done for us then?

He has no right to be in his position, nobody voted him in. In my opinion he has done more damage to this country than any modern terrorist organisation and should be publicly tried accordingly.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

283 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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"So, I'm afraid there's a good chance this forthcoming tear-fest with Piers Moron is not going to summon up much sympathy from anyone, least of all those families who have lost children."

This absolute swine of a man (GB),using his family history for political benefit, has so many hang ups he should not be in office.


Jasandjules

71,793 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
You think the level of Govt debt he has got us into (which will cost us all for the next 10 years and more) isn't ruining the country?

IforB

9,840 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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[AJ] said:
KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
Come on then, please tell us what good he has done for us then?

He has no right to be in his position, nobody voted him in. In my opinion he has done more damage to this country than any modern terrorist organisation and should be publicly tried accordingly.
Yes they did. The Labour party voted him in as leader.
You could also easily argue that Brown taking over from Blair wasn't exactly unexpected at the last election either, so it's not as if the electorate were conned, but don't let minor things like that get in the way of your impotent rage.


agric

367 posts

205 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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But wasn't poor Alastair similarly overcome with emotion on Andrew Mar earlier,

a pause to marshall his reply to mention of the inquiry
(quick squeeze of the shallot under his eyes)

rather like attending a Janet Jackson concert.....

tank slapper

7,949 posts

304 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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IforB said:
Yes they did. The Labour party voted him in as leader.
Funny, I don't remember there being an election.

[AJ]

3,079 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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IforB said:
[AJ] said:
KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
Come on then, please tell us what good he has done for us then?

He has no right to be in his position, nobody voted him in. In my opinion he has done more damage to this country than any modern terrorist organisation and should be publicly tried accordingly.
Yes they did. The Labour party voted him in as leader.
You could also easily argue that Brown taking over from Blair wasn't exactly unexpected at the last election either, so it's not as if the electorate were conned, but don't let minor things like that get in the way of your impotent rage.
Northing to do with rage. The public didn't vote him in, so as far as I am concerned nobody voted him in. When Blair failed and gave up, there should have been a general election. The fact that his own party have tried to get him out surly demonstrates that that nobody in their right mind has faith in the plonker.


rfisher

5,042 posts

304 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Yes NuLabia clearly on the back foot demonstrating that there is no depth to which they won't sink in an attempt to win over the middle swing voters.

String the lot of them up.

Quick, easy, effective and deserved.

However, I'm still not inspired by CMD.

He's looking like a rabbit in the headlights these days.

He needs to grow some and quick - there's work to be done.

turbobloke

115,142 posts

281 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Jasandjules said:
KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
You think the level of Govt debt he has got us into (which will cost us all for the next 10 years and more) isn't ruining the country?
Heaven knows what some people think or why. Given the amount of time Brown spent alone with Prudence to no avail, and as she seems to have gone missing now he's PM, there's nobody else to blame. Brown put is at the head of the queue going into recession and made sure we were last out, if we really are out and that 0.1% won't end up being revised downwards. He's incompetent along with his colleagues and personally unsuited to a national leadership role.

IforB

9,840 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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[AJ] said:
IforB said:
[AJ] said:
KANEIT said:
GregE240 said:
He deserves it. He has single handedly ruined this country....
Really? Get a grip.
Come on then, please tell us what good he has done for us then?

He has no right to be in his position, nobody voted him in. In my opinion he has done more damage to this country than any modern terrorist organisation and should be publicly tried accordingly.
Yes they did. The Labour party voted him in as leader.
You could also easily argue that Brown taking over from Blair wasn't exactly unexpected at the last election either, so it's not as if the electorate were conned, but don't let minor things like that get in the way of your impotent rage.
Northing to do with rage. The public didn't vote him in, so as far as I am concerned nobody voted him in. When Blair failed and gave up, there should have been a general election. The fact that his own party have tried to get him out surly demonstrates that that nobody in their right mind has faith in the plonker.
We don't vote directly for a Prime Minister in this country or did you miss that bit of Political education?

Blair announced he was going to resign as PM in October 2004, Brown didn't takeover until June 2007. There was a General Election in 2005. So, what is it you don't understand about our electoral system.

Brown is a buffoon, but there is nothing accurate about banging on about he wasn't "elected", he was, by his own constituents in 2005.

Oh and as an aside, can you name me one other politician who became PM without winning a General Election as a party leader?

IforB

9,840 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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tank slapper said:
IforB said:
Yes they did. The Labour party voted him in as leader.
Funny, I don't remember there being an election.
Whilst they didn't need to go through the whole process, there was an election held, it's just that there weren't any other real candidates. Brown got over 300 nominations and his only rival got 29, negating the need to go any further.

It is still an election though.