What Playstation game to familiarise yourself with UK tracks
What Playstation game to familiarise yourself with UK tracks
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jonamacg83

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202 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Title says it all, any suggestions?

Toca Race Driver 3 has Bedford Autodrome, Brands, Castle Combe, Donny, Oulton Park, Silverstone, Snetterton...anything better out there?

hbwold

290 posts

231 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Forza 3 for Silverstone. But TOCA 3 has the best variety for UK tracks. Think the newish Toca Race Driver Grid has Donington.

A911DOM

4,084 posts

259 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Youtube - 'Onboard' in the search also reeps rewards wink

hbwold

290 posts

231 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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There is a sticky post on the Pistonheads track days forum:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

mat205125

17,790 posts

237 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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A911DOM said:
Youtube - 'Onboard' in the search also reeps rewards wink
yes

I'd never advocate "learning" a track on a games console (there is no reset in real life, and you will never be as brave/stupid in real life), however would definitely advise watching as many onboard videos as you can find, especially if you can find some from cars similar to your own, and also from track days, rather than panel bashing competition days. The UK circuit guide from the MSA is also worth a read to understand where you should set yourself up for braking, and for corners, but alos for noting where caution is essential due to gradient changes.


stockhatcher

5,087 posts

247 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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mat205125 said:
A911DOM said:
Youtube - 'Onboard' in the search also reeps rewards wink
yes

I'd never advocate "learning" a track on a games console (there is no reset in real life, and you will never be as brave/stupid in real life), however would definitely advise watching as many onboard videos as you can find, especially if you can find some from cars similar to your own, and also from track days, rather than panel bashing competition days. The UK circuit guide from the MSA is also worth a read to understand where you should set yourself up for braking, and for corners, but alos for noting where caution is essential due to gradient changes.
err the last thing you want to do is learn the lines from a track day hero hehe there are some right numpties out there giving it large in their turbo nutter barge. better off watching the onboard from a race winner, at least if he is driving badly you know there are at least 20 others driving the circuit worse.

jonamacg83

Original Poster:

202 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Never a truer word spoken. 'Turbo Nutter Barge' - love it!

stockhatcher

5,087 posts

247 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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jonamacg83 said:
Never a truer word spoken. 'Turbo Nutter Barge' - love it!
(c) Jonny J5 Leroux.

mat205125

17,790 posts

237 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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True enough, stockhatcher yes

If you like it turbo nutter, you'll like this (which has been posted elsewhere before)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKoxsmP5kXY

Actually a very worthwhile illustration of how circuit tarmac differs from the road when it gets wet. The racing line on a circuit has a lot of rubber and residues on it that give loads of grip when dry, however can be very slick when wet ... The transition period when it starts to rain, and the track is damp can be particularly tricky.

CraigyB

209 posts

275 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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I was once marshalling a formula ford race at Druids, Oulton Park, in mildly moist conditions. I counted 13 spins in an 8 lap race.. very exciting, luckily no damage done

Edited by CraigyB on Tuesday 9th February 08:57

hbwold

290 posts

231 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Video games are good for learning the layout of the tracks and where the corners go, but if you do go 90mph around Druids on Toca then I wouldn't advise trying this on your first track day there!

Youtube allows you to see relative grip levels and quite often there are video's of similar/same cars to yours.

I'll never forget my first track day around Silverstone GP, I knew the track from video games and TV but it's amazing how big the track feels when your there...really wide and long, seemed to take ages to do a lap.

A911DOM

4,084 posts

259 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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stockhatcher said:
mat205125 said:
A911DOM said:
Youtube - 'Onboard' in the search also reeps rewards wink
yes

I'd never advocate "learning" a track on a games console (there is no reset in real life, and you will never be as brave/stupid in real life), however would definitely advise watching as many onboard videos as you can find, especially if you can find some from cars similar to your own, and also from track days, rather than panel bashing competition days. The UK circuit guide from the MSA is also worth a read to understand where you should set yourself up for braking, and for corners, but alos for noting where caution is essential due to gradient changes.
err the last thing you want to do is learn the lines from a track day hero hehe there are some right numpties out there giving it large in their turbo nutter barge. better off watching the onboard from a race winner, at least if he is driving badly you know there are at least 20 others driving the circuit worse.
I wasnt suggesting you take driving tips from other peoples video clips. The OP wanted to know whats the best way to learn the tracks, and surely thats by actually watching the real thing, from inside a car, at real world speeds!

Sorry if my tone sounds a bit nono - Just thought it the sensible option thumbup

jonamacg83

Original Poster:

202 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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Just after something that would give a good idea about the rough layout and markers for braking turn in, kerb height etc - would never take suggested speeds etc off a game, god no!

Jessop

435 posts

218 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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rFactor for the PC.. get a G25 wheel and away you go.

Plenty of custom tracks made to suit. Granted the graphics could be better but in terms of physics its far better.


If you want the best SIM for brands hatch, try iRacing . although it is a subscription based service and will cost you more than the others, it is by far the best racing sim online. Also the easiest, but it is rather limited for euro circuits.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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TOCA Race Driver 3 is the best I know for UK circuits. I don't disagree that the in game speeds will be well off what's achievable in a car, but I do think it's useful to learn which way the corners go.

rob1234

925 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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mat205125 said:
True enough, stockhatcher yes

If you like it turbo nutter, you'll like this (which has been posted elsewhere before)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKoxsmP5kXY

Actually a very worthwhile illustration of how circuit tarmac differs from the road when it gets wet. The racing line on a circuit has a lot of rubber and residues on it that give loads of grip when dry, however can be very slick when wet ... The transition period when it starts to rain, and the track is damp can be particularly tricky.
This is one of the things that puts me off track days...

Simon Mason

579 posts

293 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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mat205125 said:
True enough, stockhatcher yes

If you like it turbo nutter, you'll like this (which has been posted elsewhere before)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKoxsmP5kXY

Actually a very worthwhile illustration of how circuit tarmac differs from the road when it gets wet. The racing line on a circuit has a lot of rubber and residues on it that give loads of grip when dry, however can be very slick when wet ... The transition period when it starts to rain, and the track is damp can be particularly tricky.
Rubbish thats just a worth while demonstration of seriously poor driving skills.... on mass!


sfaulds

653 posts

302 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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Holy st - how did some of those 'tards manage to drive to the circuit in one piece?

edb49

1,652 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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Likewise... any recommendations for UK tracks on the Xbox 360? I've got Forza 2 + 3 which are ace as simulations, but the only UK track they have is Silverstone.

jonamacg83

Original Poster:

202 posts

239 months

Saturday 13th February 2010
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Simon Mason said:
mat205125 said:
True enough, stockhatcher yes

If you like it turbo nutter, you'll like this (which has been posted elsewhere before)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKoxsmP5kXY

Actually a very worthwhile illustration of how circuit tarmac differs from the road when it gets wet. The racing line on a circuit has a lot of rubber and residues on it that give loads of grip when dry, however can be very slick when wet ... The transition period when it starts to rain, and the track is damp can be particularly tricky.
Rubbish thats just a worth while demonstration of seriously poor driving skills.... on mass!

Amazing - if every conceivable driving aid under the sun fitted to the Evos cant keep the guys from spinning, what hope have they got?!