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Finally given up on Mercedes standards of customer care and moving over to Audi. Been to my local dealership and have a RS6 coming on demo just a few quick questions from you guys who have had Audi's....
Hows customer care ? are the cars reliable? and problems with the rs6?
More importantly what extras do I need to add ? I was thinking advanced key (key-less go) power close doors, high beam assistant and side assist along with the ceramic brake up grade. Any thoughts on the PQQ code for speed restricted to 174 mph and the carbon fibre engine package ? Have I missed any thing I really need to spec ?
Thanks
marc
Hows customer care ? are the cars reliable? and problems with the rs6?
More importantly what extras do I need to add ? I was thinking advanced key (key-less go) power close doors, high beam assistant and side assist along with the ceramic brake up grade. Any thoughts on the PQQ code for speed restricted to 174 mph and the carbon fibre engine package ? Have I missed any thing I really need to spec ?
Thanks
marc
Can't comment on the RS6 (wish i could!), but my experiences of the customer service at both my local main dealer and the local independent have been amongst the best I've ever experienced - especially the main dealer.
First time I called in was for something basic - just a headlight bulb, but the overall quality was absolutely faultless.
First time I called in was for something basic - just a headlight bulb, but the overall quality was absolutely faultless.
marc.l said:
Finally given up on Mercedes standards of customer care and moving over to Audi. Been to my local dealership and have a RS6 coming on demo just a few quick questions from you guys who have had Audi's....
Hows customer care ? are the cars reliable? and problems with the rs6?
Customer care better than Mercedes. I would suggest you call Audi Customer Services 0800 699888 and you will get a feel about their attitude for yourself.Hows customer care ? are the cars reliable? and problems with the rs6?
Previous RS6's, RS4's had quite serious suspension issues, often requiring a few days at the dealership. Not sure about the new RS6. Will the dealership lend you an equivalent car?
Used ones with less than 10k miles go at around £55k. Awesome cars.
Keyless go is good.
High beam, side and lane assist are irritating and I usually turn them off.
Ceramics are nice in principle but I prefer the 'feel' of steel brakes and the ease of modulating them. I'm comparing RS4-RS4 but maybe the new RS6 ones are better?
Speed limiter don't worry about, simple remap will sort this for you.
Absolutely epic piece of machinery, like a very comfy and supportive armchair but all the scenery outside the window is strangely blurry most of the time.
High beam, side and lane assist are irritating and I usually turn them off.
Ceramics are nice in principle but I prefer the 'feel' of steel brakes and the ease of modulating them. I'm comparing RS4-RS4 but maybe the new RS6 ones are better?
Speed limiter don't worry about, simple remap will sort this for you.
Absolutely epic piece of machinery, like a very comfy and supportive armchair but all the scenery outside the window is strangely blurry most of the time.
www.rs246.com is your friend.
The Autocar(?) review (you used to be able to download this from the Audi website) had a gripe about the power boot being too slow to close.
Reviews of the saloon tend to mention that it's better to drive than the Avant (different suspension settings, but rare so seemingly more expensive used).
Go for one in sepang blue or daytona grey.
There have been daylight running light recalls.
DRC is on generation 3 now, I think, and it's too early to tell whether/when any issues will surface. The gen 2 DRC on the B7 RS4 took about a year or so for its issues to come to light, for the most part.
Make sure you use a decent dealer for servicing (the Camberley Audi guys have a very good reputation as RS specialists).
I'd love one.
Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtGigCt84k&fea...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI2KP_0ZaPM&fea... and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Kry1CbTkM.
The Autocar(?) review (you used to be able to download this from the Audi website) had a gripe about the power boot being too slow to close.
Reviews of the saloon tend to mention that it's better to drive than the Avant (different suspension settings, but rare so seemingly more expensive used).
Go for one in sepang blue or daytona grey.
There have been daylight running light recalls.
DRC is on generation 3 now, I think, and it's too early to tell whether/when any issues will surface. The gen 2 DRC on the B7 RS4 took about a year or so for its issues to come to light, for the most part.
Make sure you use a decent dealer for servicing (the Camberley Audi guys have a very good reputation as RS specialists).
I'd love one.
Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtGigCt84k&fea...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI2KP_0ZaPM&fea... and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Kry1CbTkM.
Edited by sv on Wednesday 10th February 15:28
Edited by sv on Wednesday 10th February 15:28
it's the ultimate everyday runner - love mine, especially this winter when an M5 touring or E55 or XFR would have failed to get me work for most of january.
mine has been 100 reliable over last 12 months, only exception being a couple of recalls. Audi customer care from Crawley Audi has been absolutely top notch.
wouldn't bother with de-restrict, mine doesn't have it and it still sails pass 170 without any interferance (on the autobahn obviously). can't comment on ceramics, although i do swear by them on GT3 911's. power door close is good if u have children, high beam assist and lane vibro pointless. keyless go prob worth having.
really brilliant car, see EVO long term test for most realistic journo review.
mine has been 100 reliable over last 12 months, only exception being a couple of recalls. Audi customer care from Crawley Audi has been absolutely top notch.
wouldn't bother with de-restrict, mine doesn't have it and it still sails pass 170 without any interferance (on the autobahn obviously). can't comment on ceramics, although i do swear by them on GT3 911's. power door close is good if u have children, high beam assist and lane vibro pointless. keyless go prob worth having.
really brilliant car, see EVO long term test for most realistic journo review.
Dr G said:
Ceramics are nice in principle but I prefer the 'feel' of steel brakes and the ease of modulating them. I'm comparing RS4-RS4 but maybe the new RS6 ones are better?
Every time I've been in my local indy Audi garage they've had an RS4 in for brakes. They cost an absolute fortune to replace though - something over £1k for parts alone? Makes me wonder if they go fairly regular?
Dr G said:
Yeah, generally around 20k and you need a grand for front discs and pads.
I've only had two RS4s with ceramics and both had tiny miles on. No idea how durable they are in the real world unfortunately
Thanks for all the help so far. I was expecting running costs along similar lines as the E55 AMG. We looked the estates a few years but at the time the children were small and with most of the Audi's being high waisted the Kids could never see out of them. I do like the build quality and the quality of the plastics and leather.I've only had two RS4s with ceramics and both had tiny miles on. No idea how durable they are in the real world unfortunately
I've had mine for three weeks now - it replaced my RS4 Avant and I love it.
As seawise mentions, it's a great every day car, although stop start traffic sees the mpg drop to around 6
.
Motorways are scary, as you constantly get some pillock hanging off your rear bumper and the temptation to open up the car and get rid of him is always there.
(I'm aware that makes me sound like a pillock too.)
Build quality is top notch and space after the somewhat cramped RS4 is great.
Another nice option to have is the rear parking camera - it is a big and wide car and I have to contend with Central London parking spots.
Not looking forward to replacing the brakes. The 4's cost the best part of £1000 for front disc and pads and I can only imagine the 6 will be more.
Edited to add dealers have been ok, and by that I mean friendly enough and helpful when they've needed to be.
As seawise mentions, it's a great every day car, although stop start traffic sees the mpg drop to around 6
. Motorways are scary, as you constantly get some pillock hanging off your rear bumper and the temptation to open up the car and get rid of him is always there.
(I'm aware that makes me sound like a pillock too.)
Build quality is top notch and space after the somewhat cramped RS4 is great.
Another nice option to have is the rear parking camera - it is a big and wide car and I have to contend with Central London parking spots.
Not looking forward to replacing the brakes. The 4's cost the best part of £1000 for front disc and pads and I can only imagine the 6 will be more.
Edited to add dealers have been ok, and by that I mean friendly enough and helpful when they've needed to be.
Edited by gmk666 on Thursday 11th February 12:29
Unless you are going for an ECU remap to 700bhp+ then the ceramics are a waste of time. They are great, but you dont really need them. Also, if they get chipped / scratched for some reason then its a huge bill to replace. Saloons are out there, but they fetch a premium as they are a better looking car (although less practical) and there are less of them. Only things to watch for (nightmare on the C5 RS6) is the DRC suspension. Its the same set up as they had on the C5 but as yet hasnt shown any failures, time will tell. Gearboxes should be serviced every 20k, despite the Audi 'sealed for life' opinion. There have been some minor electronics nigglles but have been rectified under warranty without issue. My experience with Audi has always been 1st class, cant speak highly enough.
You shouldnt have any other issues to be honest. There's a wealth of knowledge on rs246.com shhould you need it. When i was in Glasgow Audi last month there was a blue Avant with an MTM 780 upgrade if you fancy it. Was built for a customer who never turned up. Glasgow Audi are an MTM dealer too so you know its from good stock.
Eddie, C5 RS6 owner.
You shouldnt have any other issues to be honest. There's a wealth of knowledge on rs246.com shhould you need it. When i was in Glasgow Audi last month there was a blue Avant with an MTM 780 upgrade if you fancy it. Was built for a customer who never turned up. Glasgow Audi are an MTM dealer too so you know its from good stock.
Eddie, C5 RS6 owner.
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