Will we ever run out of metal?
Will we ever run out of metal?
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BlueSmoke

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213 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Sounds daft, I know, but I was thinking about this earlier. We mine metal in the form of metal ore, so eventually there will surely be nothing left to dig up?

How much is left?

Edited by BlueSmoke on Thursday 11th February 10:55

grumbledoak

32,259 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Two words: Aluminium. Google.

wink

Plotloss

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289 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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I read somewhere a while ago that there isn't enough copper left in the world to rewire New York.

Probably ecomentalist bks though.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Two words: Irritating st.


thegman

1,928 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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we'll never run out because we can recycle all our cans

Groober

775 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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"Apparently" there is not enough copper in the ground to make everyone in China a telephone.

But there is loads of metal left and with recycling we can use metal that has already been mined.

One day though I suppose it's possible there will be none left in the ground.

Art_Vandelay

6,692 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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We can re-use the old stuff too though. Isn't the Earth's core a mass of iron... just use that thumbup

The most abundant metal on earth is Aluminium if I remember correctly. The problem is in processing it. You can't process Aluminium like we do with the likes of Iron as it is more reactive than Carbon (in the form of Coke when smelting iron). Aluminium is extracted via electrolysis, a process which requires large amounts of energy.

I think I might have all this wrong, I'll let someone smarter clarify that though.

BlueSmoke

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Thursday 11th February 2010
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thegman said:
we'll never run out because we can recycle all our cans
But if all the metal was already used up, recycling cans would either mean only more cans could be made, or you could make something else but we would have no cans left!

As for aluminium, I will look into how that is made biggrin

V8mate

45,899 posts

208 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Not as long as there are women living and breathing.



Oh. Metal.

obob

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213 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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If we mine all the oil, gases, minerals and whatever else - will the Earth get smaller? or it will change shape into a deflated balloon?

Smiler.

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249 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Neil H

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270 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
Two words: Irritating st.
hehe

Once mining becomes too difficult/ expensive due to exhausted deposits, recycling will become bigger. People are already starting to highly value (by value, I mean 'steal') old bits of copper and lead, the same will happen with other metals. It won't 'run out' per se, but it will become more expensive, and manufacturers will look at alternatives.

Engineer1

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228 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Possibly for some applications, Recycled copper wasn't/isn't as usable as virgin copper. Some high precision medical equipment needs steel that hasn't been exposed to radiation, there is also a market for low alpha lead etc, so there may well be shortages of material that is ideal for the job.

Graham E

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205 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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As long as Kerrang exists, we'll have more metal than we'd ever want. Which is 1 or more shouty tunes with elaborate drumming.

MiniMadMike

781 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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V8mate said:
Not as long as there are women living and breathing.



Oh. Metal.
hehe

EDLT

15,421 posts

225 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Neil H said:
blindswelledrat said:
Two words: Irritating st.
hehe

Once mining becomes too difficult/ expensive due to exhausted deposits, recycling will become bigger. People are already starting to highly value (by value, I mean 'steal') old bits of copper and lead, the same will happen with other metals. It won't 'run out' per se, but it will become more expensive, and manufacturers will look at alternatives.
Pikeys are doing that already.

ProfessorPeach

616 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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I was going to start a similar thread.

Slightly OT - do you think I should start a different thread about this?


Will we ever run out of STONES?


Think about it.


I don't think any new stones are being made.

We just keep digging up stones, but no one is making new ones.


Lava doesn't count, since that is basically breeze blocks.

Isn't anyone slightly concerned about this?

VeeTEC

1,572 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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ProfessorPeach said:
Will we ever run out of STONES?


Isn't anyone slightly concerned about this?
It's been worrying me for months rolleyes

grumbledoak

32,259 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
Two words: Irritating st.
One word: Dulcoease. tongue out

dilbert

7,741 posts

250 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Engineer1 said:
Possibly for some applications, Recycled copper wasn't/isn't as usable as virgin copper. Some high precision medical equipment needs steel that hasn't been exposed to radiation, there is also a market for low alpha lead etc, so there may well be shortages of material that is ideal for the job.
Is that really becoming a major problem? I'd often wondered, but never heard anyone talking about it.

I suppose, in the end, it's all a matter of degree, since everything will have been exposed to radiation at some point.

But I mean, is recycled metal really that bad?