Outside tap

[carreauchompeur]

Hi all.

Currently trying to get quotes for a custom-built shed (Odd space in garden between 3 walls) and also installation of an outside tap.

I've had a quote of £360 for the shed which seems half-decent. Same person has quoted £150 for the outside tap.

Basically, there is a suitable water feed on the back of the wall, so it will entail simply drilling an exterior wall (Masonry/block) and installing the tap on the other side.

Any idea what an average price on above should be? I can't see an outside tap being in a much easier location to install.

[jas xjr]

is the £150 for the tap labour only? if it is it seems on the expensive side,actually very expensive.

[carreauchompeur]

jas xjr said:

is the £150 for the tap labour only? if it is it seems on the expensive side,actually very expensive.

That's what I was thinking. No, it includes parts, but I can't see them being much more than £20- Hardly any pipework needed.

[anonymous-user]

Jesus i would DIY, i'd never used a blow tourch before but not one joint has failed or leaked that i have done. Buy the stuff to do it for under half the quote & have some fun (assuming you have a drill?)

[carreauchompeur]

Dave_ST220 said:

Jesus i would DIY, i'd never used a blow tourch before but not one joint has failed or leaked that i have done. Buy the stuff to do it for under half the quote & have some fun (assuming you have a drill?)

I do have a drill- But not a feckoffhugeone suitable for going through external walls! I would be tempted, but it's right by the boiler and I feel the potential for a major feckup is quite large.

[anonymous-user]

hmm, boiler...hidden pipes....pay the man

[carreauchompeur]

Dave_ST220 said:

hmm, boiler...hidden pipes....pay the man

Boiler, hidden pipes, gas feed for entire building, various electrics... Victorian masonry. DEFINITELY pay the man

[anonymous-user]

carreauchompeur said:

Dave_ST220 said:

hmm, boiler...hidden pipes....pay the man

Boiler, hidden pipes, gas feed for entire building, various electrics... Victorian masonry. DEFINITELY pay the man

Yep. & if he punches a brick while drilling you want that fixing......

[Wings]

Go to Ragani, Wilkinson, B&Q etc for DIY kit from £9.95, or plumber merchants to buy bits all for less than £20.

Ensure you have long 20mm masonary drill to go through wall, drill from inside out at a slight downwards angle, insulate pipe through wall, use inline valve for inside, (turn water off cold weather, angled pipe to allow pipe to drain), outside tap bracket and tap.

This link roughly shows you the parts you require.

http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?_dyncharset=UTF-...

[Roger645]

The clamp on valves are crap, they only pierce a small home in the pipe and you get no pressure, best to get a proper T piece. You can always use compression joint style ones if you blow-torch averse.

[stevieb]

If you can be doing with the blow tourch of the compression joints go for the copper push fit ones... Ashort length of copper pipe and then a pushfit external tap with wall bracket... A spare hour on a Sunday afternoon and job done

[FamilyGuy]

Roger645 said:

The clamp on valves are crap, they only pierce a small home in the pipe and you get no pressure, best to get a proper T piece. You can always use compression joint style ones if you blow-torch averse.

The push-fit stuff seems to get a good review these days too. A said above - you can get kits which include all the stuff including the non-return valve for regs.

[Ferg]

Roger645 said:

The clamp on valves are crap, they only pierce a small home in the pipe and you get no pressure....

Flow.

[Busamav]

I would suggest you also have an internal tap to be able to isolate the outside when there is a likelyhood of freezing conditions

[FamilyGuy]

Busamav said:

I would suggest you also have an internal tap to be able to isolate the outside when there is a likelyhood of freezing conditions

Well said. Pretty much essential unless you like doing plumbing.

[carreauchompeur]

Thanks for the suggestions. However, any ideas on the price? This is beyond my skill levels!

[lewes]

Busamav said:

I would suggest you also have an internal tap to be able to isolate the outside when there is a likelyhood of freezing conditions

Well said but when you isolate the water from the inside you also need to turn the outside tap On or Open. Otherwise if and when it freezes and then thaws out it will crack the pipe as the pressure as no where to go

[Ricky_M]

if you've not done soldering before, leave it. You wont get a tidy looking outside tap installed if you can't solder, as compression/pushfit fittings are too chunky and wont sit flush to the wall meaning the tap sits off the wall and looks crap.

Plus if you cock it up, you could be without water whilst you wait for a plumber to come and repair it!

The price seems a bit steep though!

[stevieb]

Ricky_M said:

if you've not done soldering before, leave it. You wont get a tidy looking outside tap installed if you can't solder, as compression/pushfit fittings are too chunky and wont sit flush to the wall meaning the tap sits off the wall and looks crap.

Plus if you cock it up, you could be without water whilst you wait for a plumber to come and repair it!

The price seems a bit steep though!

Push fit are ok.. We have a outside tap plumbed with these and it is flush with the wall!

wall fitting below

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/82606/Plumbing/Coppe...

Edited by stevieb on Saturday 13th February 07:36

[Simpo Two]

Ricky_M said:

if you've not done soldering before, leave it. You wont get a tidy looking outside tap installed if you can't solder, as compression/pushfit fittings are too chunky and wont sit flush to the wall meaning the tap sits off the wall and looks crap.

Solder ring ('Yorkshire') fittings are good and easy to use (except in a confined space). All you need is flux and a blowlamp, and if you're not sure you can always practice on some offcuts first.