Best Sport Tyres for Tamora?
Discussion
Hi,
After a long abscence I´m delighted (I think) to be coming back into the fold.
My TVR of choice is my old favourite the Tamora and the after Jason at Str8six has given it a thorugh going over-and a few tweaks have been made-I will be taking the car back to Germany to show Porsche and co what a real car looks and sounds like.
As I only intend to use the Tam as my fun/dry weather car- Mk4 Golf TDI does the rest-I wonder if it might be okay to fit some more extreme rubber. My original idea was to have Conti SC3 which I have had good experience with on other cars.
Which sticky rubber would be okay for enhanced street fun?
I am looking for grip/braking/acceleration benefits.
In case I get caught in the rain they just need to be okay to get me home slowly.
Thanks for your help.
Grigio
After a long abscence I´m delighted (I think) to be coming back into the fold.
My TVR of choice is my old favourite the Tamora and the after Jason at Str8six has given it a thorugh going over-and a few tweaks have been made-I will be taking the car back to Germany to show Porsche and co what a real car looks and sounds like.
As I only intend to use the Tam as my fun/dry weather car- Mk4 Golf TDI does the rest-I wonder if it might be okay to fit some more extreme rubber. My original idea was to have Conti SC3 which I have had good experience with on other cars.
Which sticky rubber would be okay for enhanced street fun?
I am looking for grip/braking/acceleration benefits.
In case I get caught in the rain they just need to be okay to get me home slowly.
Thanks for your help.
Grigio
Thanks guys for the feedback.
I know and like the ContiSC3s and get on my current car which has more weight and much more torque then Speed Six-and soon to be usurped by the Tamora-around 7000-9000 miles out of the rears and more of course 14000-16000miles I guess from the fronts.
If I go onto F1 or really sticky R888s assuming simialr drving style what could I expect 5000-6000 mile a set?
That would be okay as it equates to easily 12 months driving for me. One set of rears a season is still tolerable for my bank account.
Cheers
Grigio
I know and like the ContiSC3s and get on my current car which has more weight and much more torque then Speed Six-and soon to be usurped by the Tamora-around 7000-9000 miles out of the rears and more of course 14000-16000miles I guess from the fronts.
If I go onto F1 or really sticky R888s assuming simialr drving style what could I expect 5000-6000 mile a set?
That would be okay as it equates to easily 12 months driving for me. One set of rears a season is still tolerable for my bank account.
Cheers
Grigio
Thanks again for the feedback.
Is the benefit of the R888 Toyos really so pronounced for `spirited´ road driving vs. Goodyear F1s or the SC3 Contis?
Are they particularly suited to the lightish/rear wheel drive TVR vs. say (the much loved here in Germany at least), Michelin Cup tyres or Pirelli Corse track oriented tyres?
In German tests on the lardy Audi 4WD S3 the R888s came out last vs all other sport tyres citing in particular that they were dangerous if you had the misfortune to get caught in the rain.
I´m no driving hero but feel from past TVR Tam/T350 experience the biggest hindrance to me pushing on for rapid road progress - given my very modest ability level- was the whole nervousness of the car under cornering/braking.
I am hoping(assuming) well set up suspension -probably Nitrons - plus sport tyres may give me more confidence =less constant small corrections=more fun.
On the other hand maybe I´m just biting off more than I can chew for my limited ability and correct suspension geometry + good street tyres will do.
Just have a nagging feeling that good suspension + extremer rubber would be more fun in the dry.
Is the benefit of the R888 Toyos really so pronounced for `spirited´ road driving vs. Goodyear F1s or the SC3 Contis?
Are they particularly suited to the lightish/rear wheel drive TVR vs. say (the much loved here in Germany at least), Michelin Cup tyres or Pirelli Corse track oriented tyres?
In German tests on the lardy Audi 4WD S3 the R888s came out last vs all other sport tyres citing in particular that they were dangerous if you had the misfortune to get caught in the rain.
I´m no driving hero but feel from past TVR Tam/T350 experience the biggest hindrance to me pushing on for rapid road progress - given my very modest ability level- was the whole nervousness of the car under cornering/braking.
I am hoping(assuming) well set up suspension -probably Nitrons - plus sport tyres may give me more confidence =less constant small corrections=more fun.
On the other hand maybe I´m just biting off more than I can chew for my limited ability and correct suspension geometry + good street tyres will do.
Just have a nagging feeling that good suspension + extremer rubber would be more fun in the dry.
I have had the Toyo and F1 on my Tam and the Toyo were terrible in the wet, but very good in the dry car was too light for them in my opinion for the wet. The F1 are far better in the wet and just a little better in the dry than the Toyo. Also the F1 seem to make the car a smoother ride.
Grigio Alloy - reading your posts it seems to me that you would probably benefit more from some driver training in your own car. The stickiest tyres in the world and the best suspension in the universe are not going to help you if you can't make use of them (plus the best tyres work better when they get some heat into them - you need to be driving hard on a public road to make that happen.
I'm not the most confident driver either btw.
I'm not the most confident driver either btw.
Hi Targarama,
You are right-more driver ability would help me get the most out of any given set up.
I guess it is a matter of both confidence and ability.
In my TVRs from 1996-2004 I never had the right mixture of confidence/ability.
Always felt the last X percent of car performance/my own performance could not be exploited.
Best feeling and far and away quickest on the road was in my std (apart from Tuscan S brakes)Tamora.
Now 6 years later on and a couple of extremely fast/high performance but safety oriented Mercs later I am preparing myself to rejoin you all in the both exhilirating and frightening but always adrenalin packed TVR world.
Probably best to ensure the suspension is well set up for the road and then learn the ropes again using top street tyres- F1s or Contis. I live ten minutes from Hockenheim Ring so I can once again try a few non racing laps and a little bit of driver training.
Then confidence/ability permitting try more extreme tyres.
Thanks guys for helping me get my mind sorted/be realistic for once!
I´ll post some pics of my new Tam once I pick it up from Str8six guess April or so.
Grigio
You are right-more driver ability would help me get the most out of any given set up.
I guess it is a matter of both confidence and ability.
In my TVRs from 1996-2004 I never had the right mixture of confidence/ability.
Always felt the last X percent of car performance/my own performance could not be exploited.
Best feeling and far and away quickest on the road was in my std (apart from Tuscan S brakes)Tamora.
Now 6 years later on and a couple of extremely fast/high performance but safety oriented Mercs later I am preparing myself to rejoin you all in the both exhilirating and frightening but always adrenalin packed TVR world.
Probably best to ensure the suspension is well set up for the road and then learn the ropes again using top street tyres- F1s or Contis. I live ten minutes from Hockenheim Ring so I can once again try a few non racing laps and a little bit of driver training.
Then confidence/ability permitting try more extreme tyres.
Thanks guys for helping me get my mind sorted/be realistic for once!
I´ll post some pics of my new Tam once I pick it up from Str8six guess April or so.
Grigio
grigio alloy said:
Thanks again for the feedback.
Is the benefit of the R888 Toyos really so pronounced for `spirited´ road driving vs. Goodyear F1s or the SC3 Contis?
Are they particularly suited to the lightish/rear wheel drive TVR vs. say (the much loved here in Germany at least), Michelin Cup tyres or Pirelli Corse track oriented tyres?
In German tests on the lardy Audi 4WD S3 the R888s came out last vs all other sport tyres citing in particular that they were dangerous if you had the misfortune to get caught in the rain.
I´m no driving hero but feel from past TVR Tam/T350 experience the biggest hindrance to me pushing on for rapid road progress - given my very modest ability level- was the whole nervousness of the car under cornering/braking.
I am hoping(assuming) well set up suspension -probably Nitrons - plus sport tyres may give me more confidence =less constant small corrections=more fun.
On the other hand maybe I´m just biting off more than I can chew for my limited ability and correct suspension geometry + good street tyres will do.
Just have a nagging feeling that good suspension + extremer rubber would be more fun in the dry.
Is the benefit of the R888 Toyos really so pronounced for `spirited´ road driving vs. Goodyear F1s or the SC3 Contis?
Are they particularly suited to the lightish/rear wheel drive TVR vs. say (the much loved here in Germany at least), Michelin Cup tyres or Pirelli Corse track oriented tyres?
In German tests on the lardy Audi 4WD S3 the R888s came out last vs all other sport tyres citing in particular that they were dangerous if you had the misfortune to get caught in the rain.
I´m no driving hero but feel from past TVR Tam/T350 experience the biggest hindrance to me pushing on for rapid road progress - given my very modest ability level- was the whole nervousness of the car under cornering/braking.
I am hoping(assuming) well set up suspension -probably Nitrons - plus sport tyres may give me more confidence =less constant small corrections=more fun.
On the other hand maybe I´m just biting off more than I can chew for my limited ability and correct suspension geometry + good street tyres will do.
Just have a nagging feeling that good suspension + extremer rubber would be more fun in the dry.
Before you start paying out for Nitrons and R888 get your car set up by someone who knows what they are doing, it's going to cost about 100/150euros but just that could transform your car, most of the cars that came out of the factory were set up crap if at all especially Griffs, Chims, Tuscans and Cerberas though the Tams i've driven felt better.
I've got Nitrons and R888s on the Griff, had em on for years and they transformed the car for track driving, Driven to the ring/spa on R888 a few times and never had a problem, just take it easy when it's pissing down or really cold, R888s are scary in cold conditions.
I've got german F1 eagles on the Sag and they are a good tyre for road use.
Edited by Mark UB on Wednesday 17th February 13:40
grigio alloy said:
Hi,
After a long abscence I´m delighted (I think) to be coming back into the fold.
My TVR of choice is my old favourite the Tamora and the after Jason at Str8six has given it a thorugh going over-and a few tweaks have been made-I will be taking the car back to Germany to show Porsche and co what a real car looks and sounds like.
After a long abscence I´m delighted (I think) to be coming back into the fold.
My TVR of choice is my old favourite the Tamora and the after Jason at Str8six has given it a thorugh going over-and a few tweaks have been made-I will be taking the car back to Germany to show Porsche and co what a real car looks and sounds like.
Yeah, good luck with that and all.
As for tyres, I can vouch for the R888's. If they lasy you a year, you'll be doing well indeed.
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