David Cameron and Goldie Hawn
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statts1976uk

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191 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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As it's approaching an election I'm turning into a floating voter having always voted Tory but I have never been keen on David "call me Dave" Cameron but after finding this on the BBC website I find it hard to take him seriously as he must be getting exhausted from jumping on every bandwagon going. I'm not a fan of Brown either so it might be a spoilt paper in protest this year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8514878.stm

I know the education system in this country is a mess but surely this will only complicate things, it's time to get back to basics instead of importing politically correct ideas that are in fashion.

MX7

7,902 posts

194 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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Well, it's a fairly crappy piece of cheap journalism, both from the BBC and The Sunday Times. They are discussing possibilities with foreign educational groups, which I don't see any harm in, as the education system does appear to need some new direction.

Would this even be newsworthy if Hawn wasn't involved? I doubt it.


statts1976uk

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191 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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It is tacky journalism but I think Cameron lacks the integrity of previous Tory leaders having sold his soul to appear popular and be an everyman. With Cameron, Brown and Clegg all vying to be the most popular by chopping and changing policies to suit who they are talking to, what hope has the voter got to make the informed choice.

MX7

7,902 posts

194 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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statts1976uk said:
It is tacky journalism but I think Cameron lacks the integrity of previous Tory leaders having sold his soul to appear popular and be an everyman.
In what way has he 'sold his soul'? I'm sure that all the parties consult other overseas bodies who have had some success in their field.

I've never heard of The Hawn Foundation before, but if they are successful in their aims, I see no reason not to talk to them.

"Equipping children with the social and emotional skills they need to lead smarter, healthier, and happier lives."

turbobloke

114,635 posts

280 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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Schools Minister Vernon Coaker questioned how the plan could be funded without "cuts to existing schools".

Gove has indicated several times that monies will effectively folllow students including from closed failing schools. If they are educated somewhere beyond a private tutor the unit cost is broadly the same, though they should discuss diseconomies of scale for any smaller-than-usual schools. Even so it's typical Labour misdirection.

Michael Gove said:
To my mind you cannot have a school which teaches creationism and one thing that we will make absolutely clear is that you cannot have schools which are set up, which teach people things which are clearly at variance with what we know to be scientific fact.
Fantastic, Al Gore's quackumentary and the entire edifice of manmade-up global warming are toast. Dave won't be pleased hehe

nonegreen

7,803 posts

290 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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Goldie Hawn has a great body and is very funny, but what the fk does she know about education? Getting rid of nanny state in terms of running schools is a great idea. If all the gummint are going to do is hand over to a supplier then double the cost of the civil service to inspect the job to death like they do with private vocational training suppliers then don't bother. We need a return to measuring outputs not inputs. Scrapping all the LEAs and issuing every child with a creditcard to buy their education would be a great idea. Along with forcing private schools to open the doors to all on an entrance exam basis. Scrap the QCA and close some of the rubbish universities and we could have enough money left to really start improving the level of education. Getting Goldie Hawn involved is not really adding to the equation.

Police State

4,271 posts

240 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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nonegreen said:
Goldie Hawn has a great body and is very funny, but what the fk does she know about education?
probably not much, but she has a different agenda...

"And he told The Sunday Times his team had also spoken to Ms Hawn's charity, which promotes Buddhist values."

nonegreen

7,803 posts

290 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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Police State said:
nonegreen said:
Goldie Hawn has a great body and is very funny, but what the fk does she know about education?
probably not much, but she has a different agenda...

"And he told The Sunday Times his team had also spoken to Ms Hawn's charity, which promotes Buddhist values."
Yes but we are not going to gain anything from even more mumbo jumbo are we?

Bing o

15,184 posts

239 months

Sunday 14th February 2010
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Police State said:
nonegreen said:
Goldie Hawn has a great body and is very funny, but what the fk does she know about education?
probably not much, but she has a different agenda...

"And he told The Sunday Times his team had also spoken to Ms Hawn's charity, which promotes Buddhist values."
I'd much rather Buddhism than the endless Islam ste we get subjected to at the moment.

nonegreen

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290 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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Bing o said:
Police State said:
nonegreen said:
Goldie Hawn has a great body and is very funny, but what the fk does she know about education?
probably not much, but she has a different agenda...

"And he told The Sunday Times his team had also spoken to Ms Hawn's charity, which promotes Buddhist values."
I'd much rather Buddhism than the endless Islam ste we get subjected to at the moment.
Agreed but I am heartily sick of these muppets constantly wanting to force their imaginary friend on everyone else.

elster

17,517 posts

230 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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nonegreen said:
Bing o said:
Police State said:
nonegreen said:
Goldie Hawn has a great body and is very funny, but what the fk does she know about education?
probably not much, but she has a different agenda...

"And he told The Sunday Times his team had also spoken to Ms Hawn's charity, which promotes Buddhist values."
I'd much rather Buddhism than the endless Islam ste we get subjected to at the moment.
Agreed but I am heartily sick of these muppets constantly wanting to force their imaginary friend on everyone else.
Indeed. I would rather schools taught facts.

By all means educate children on cultures. Don't spend too long though, as there are much more important issues. Science, Maths, Languages, Geography and Technologies are the key subjects to me. The factual ones.