Super Cheap Broadband Access
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Just a quickie..
If you're interested in a 1mb or 2mb pipe, I'd recommend having a look at Central Point (www.cpbb.co.uk)
Price details below..
This includes static IP, pop3 mail box and NO bandwidth capping..
I'm just waiting for my 2mb Pipe to go live...
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If you're interested in a 1mb or 2mb pipe, I'd recommend having a look at Central Point (www.cpbb.co.uk)
Price details below..
This includes static IP, pop3 mail box and NO bandwidth capping..
I'm just waiting for my 2mb Pipe to go live...
MMMMMMMM
So I guess I'll stick with BT for nowFrom what I've heard about them, not a very amazing company, the money saving has to come from somewhere.
All ADSL uses BT's core (IE you need their phoneline and it runs from the end user to their exchanges), BT does this for a price (£8ish a month IIRC to wholesalers)
Or you can buy IPstream from them, this brings it further into BT's network and the ISP don't need their own as much.
From that amount, when you compare it to the other 'low cost' ADSL providers you wonder what is being sacrificed, the charges are pretty fixed due to OFTEL. I would guess that they're either neglecting hardware or support.
Especially from such a unheard of company i'm suspicious, something doesn't sit right and I wouldn't want any kind of contract with them until they'd got a good reputation. Being the cheapest may get you business but it won't last for long if your network's shite. The boss of Nildram is on here (got to have a word with him sometime), they've been going for a while and have a good reputation, I can't imagine making many cost cuttings and still giving their kind of end product.
I'd wait rather than buying it because it's cheap, your net connection is important after all, how else would you look at por......pistonheads
All ADSL uses BT's core (IE you need their phoneline and it runs from the end user to their exchanges), BT does this for a price (£8ish a month IIRC to wholesalers)
Or you can buy IPstream from them, this brings it further into BT's network and the ISP don't need their own as much.
From that amount, when you compare it to the other 'low cost' ADSL providers you wonder what is being sacrificed, the charges are pretty fixed due to OFTEL. I would guess that they're either neglecting hardware or support.
Especially from such a unheard of company i'm suspicious, something doesn't sit right and I wouldn't want any kind of contract with them until they'd got a good reputation. Being the cheapest may get you business but it won't last for long if your network's shite. The boss of Nildram is on here (got to have a word with him sometime), they've been going for a while and have a good reputation, I can't imagine making many cost cuttings and still giving their kind of end product.
I'd wait rather than buying it because it's cheap, your net connection is important after all, how else would you look at por......pistonheads
whilst they are a relatively unheard of company in the residential broadband market, they've been in the satellite broadband market for a while now and as far as I know, have had good feedback..
A lot of their cost reduction can be found in the reduced services they offer... If you purely require the connection and dont need additional bundled "stuff" (web hosting, unlimited mail accounts etc etc etc)..
Further to this, there is a reduction in cost (if a little minimal but a reduction none-the-less) in the reduced backhaul costs when providing a static IP (something other ISP's can tend to charge a premium for)
Entering into a contract isn't really a problem as the initial contract is only 3 months..
I appreciate it's typical to be sinical of anything that looks a little too good to be true, but I'm happy to go for it this time round!..
[rant mode/]
A lot of their cost reduction can be found in the reduced services they offer... If you purely require the connection and dont need additional bundled "stuff" (web hosting, unlimited mail accounts etc etc etc)..
Further to this, there is a reduction in cost (if a little minimal but a reduction none-the-less) in the reduced backhaul costs when providing a static IP (something other ISP's can tend to charge a premium for)
Entering into a contract isn't really a problem as the initial contract is only 3 months..
I appreciate it's typical to be sinical of anything that looks a little too good to be true, but I'm happy to go for it this time round!..
[rant mode/]
These guys run their service on "Datastream" instead of the usual BT ADSL products.
Normally ADSL service providers get BT to route the traffic through the BT network back into their own network, terminated in one big pipe. i.e. customer -> exchange -> bt network -> provider's network -> internet
Datastream customers only pay for BT to route traffic from the local exchange straight onto the provider's own network (Telefonica in the case of these guys) and they then do their own thing with the traffic. i.e. customer -> exchange -> provider's network -> internet
Pluses and minuses either way I guess. I'm certainly very tempted by the 2MB option!
Normally ADSL service providers get BT to route the traffic through the BT network back into their own network, terminated in one big pipe. i.e. customer -> exchange -> bt network -> provider's network -> internet
Datastream customers only pay for BT to route traffic from the local exchange straight onto the provider's own network (Telefonica in the case of these guys) and they then do their own thing with the traffic. i.e. customer -> exchange -> provider's network -> internet
Pluses and minuses either way I guess. I'm certainly very tempted by the 2MB option!
If you want the low-down on any ADSL ISP a resource I allways find useful is www.adslguide.org. I just had a quick look and there are serveral threads in there forums covering this ISP.
Hope this helps
Lake
Hope this helps
Lake
A Static IP Address allows you to have the same IP Address (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) each time you connect to the net. But is this not a security worry ?
I would prefer to have a dynamic address allocated everytime I log on. The chances of a hacker finding me are then somewhat reduced.
Ramesh
I would prefer to have a dynamic address allocated everytime I log on. The chances of a hacker finding me are then somewhat reduced.
Ramesh
robertuk said:
But is this not a security worry ?
No, not if you've got decent firewall
robertuk said:
The chances of a hacker finding me are then somewhat reduced.
very very doubtful.
I use a dynamic ip and my firewall gets hit several times a minute. Granted most of the attacks are virri but having a dynamic IP will NOT stop any hacker worth his salt.
Dynamic IP isn't a real problem anyway if you use Dynamic DNS (eg www.dyndns.org). You can run a client to send your current IP address to them. They update their DNS records so wherever you are, you can access your home site using <whatever>.dyndns.org.
Plenty others provide this service and, best of all, it's free.
Plenty others provide this service and, best of all, it's free.
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