Buying a Tuscan with Cat D damage???
Buying a Tuscan with Cat D damage???
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TMan

Original Poster:

78 posts

270 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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Have just seen a beautiful Tuscan with 8K on the clock,in overall good condition, but with Category D damage which was repaired professionally. Looked at the car and it looks great - can't spot where the work was done unless you look closely and the owner is being very upfront about everything, showed photos of damage etc. Anything I should consider before taking the plunge?

T88CAN

3,474 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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Its got to be really cheap and expect to have problems
when you try to dispose, the Trade will stand it in at 1/2 the price of a sraight car Also make sure you can get it insured some companies wont insure Cat C/D cars IIRC i know it sounds tempting ultimatley the decision is yours. Tony

MikeyT

18,307 posts

299 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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TMan said:
Have just seen a beautiful Tuscan with 8K on the clock,in overall good condition, but with Category D damage which was repaired professionally. Looked at the car and it looks great - can't spot where the work was done unless you look closely and the owner is being very upfront about everything, showed photos of damage etc. Anything I should consider before taking the plunge?



You say it's been repaired professionally but in th same breath say you can't see it unless you look closely. Depending on what the damage was, I wouldn't expect to see ANY evidence of body damage on a GRP car if I was buying it - even a CAT D one.

Your choice though

yiw1393

23,018 posts

289 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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This thread is useless without photos

MATHEW

235 posts

298 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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Not sure how true this is but I have been informed by a TVR dealer that if the Tuscan has been classed as a Cat C or D then TVR bin all the history file on the car and will not supply any parts for that car. Say you had a small accident and you needed a new front bonnet then the dealer would ask for the chassis No to enable you to order it, if you gave the correct chassis no for the car they would then refuse to sell you the car part.
Dont take my word for it but I was informed by a dealer.
MATHEW

Dick Dastardly

8,326 posts

291 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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MATHEW said:
Not sure how true this is but I have been informed by a TVR dealer that if the Tuscan has been classed as a Cat C or D then TVR bin all the history file on the car and will not supply any parts for that car.


Don't know about letting you have parts but they definately won't let you have the history!

Who did the repairs?

raceboy

13,880 posts

308 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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Is it this one?

burriana500

16,556 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th February 2004
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There are LOADS of threads on Cat D/C damage.

Rule of thumb is 20/25% off normal price.

If in doubt get it certified by Autolign for £250. They will then certify and indicate on insurance register that it is A-ok.

Never heard of any insurance companies not touching Cat Ds.

... unless of course Tuscans are totally different rules, which is always possible?

TMan

Original Poster:

78 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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MATHEW said:
Not sure how true this is but I have been informed by a TVR dealer that if the Tuscan has been classed as a Cat C or D then TVR bin all the history file on the car and will not supply any parts for that car. Say you had a small accident and you needed a new front bonnet then the dealer would ask for the chassis No to enable you to order it, if you gave the correct chassis no for the car they would then refuse to sell you the car part.
Dont take my word for it but I was informed by a dealer.
MATHEW



Interesting stuff. And yes raceboy - that's the one. Price is good and at around 20% less than it would for a straight car. The autoalign tip was a good one - will definitely check it out. I'm expecting to sell the car privately when it comes down to it. The parts / history question is the worrying part. It's always going to be a gamble but at the price may be worth it. Any of you heard about the EFI warning light coming on in heavy rain / jetwash before? Many thanks for the information all.

DustyC

12,822 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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burriana500 said:
There are LOADS of threads on Cat D/C damage.

Rule of thumb is 20/25% off normal price.

If in doubt get it certified by Autolign for £250. They will then certify and indicate on insurance register that it is A-ok.

Never heard of any insurance companies not touching Cat Ds.

... unless of course Tuscans are totally different rules, which is always possible?


I have asked around previously about a Cat C Griff and all that which burriana says is right.

burriana500

16,556 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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If anyone wants the number for Autolign then I think Rob Ingleby at findasportscar.co.uk has it, or give me several jolts on email and I will try to remember to dig it out!

Good luck.

al

TMan

Original Poster:

78 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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Just found the number for Autoalign on Google - 01604 859424. Thanks for all your info - will post photos of the car when I get it.

tvrinbfg

1,460 posts

312 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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If it has been repaired correctly, it should be in a better condition than a similar aged/miles no crashed car. Getting the paintwork and body to look right is probably the most expensive single cost you will incurr. If you can see the damage, don't buy or factor that into you price. With a Cat D car, getting Autolign to inspect the car, is probably better value than the AA or anybodyelse to inspect it.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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MATHEW said:
Not sure how true this is but I have been informed by a TVR dealer that if the Tuscan has been classed as a Cat C or D then TVR bin all the history file on the car and will not supply any parts for that car.
Not in my experience, and I re-built mine from a cat d (see the chim link in my profile for re build photos) Dealers make money on parts too I suspect the cheeky bar steward would prefer you to buy a car off them

You won't get any history unless the previous owner left it in the car (the insurance company nick it usualy) but it's what happens after the accident that's important, ie profesional re-build and subsequent history. I would assume that under 12,000 miles the car will have been dealer serviced anyway (I can't see someone buying a £40k car and then not getting it's first service done)

Pay between 65% and 75% of book. The longer you keep it the better value it is

matthewbinns

18,506 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th February 2004
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If you can't buy spares for a Cat D car how did it get repaired in the first place?