Self employed mortgage question
Self employed mortgage question
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PistonReg

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339 posts

210 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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I'm an IT contractor working through my own Ltd company. I've got 3 years of personal and company tax accounts

For a mortgage, the mortgage company will no doubt want to see my personal tax accounts (and HMRC returns) as produced by my accountant. Will they also want to see my Ltd company accounts or is that irrelevant?

Simpo Two

89,683 posts

282 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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I'd guess that as you and the company are seperate entities, just your bit.

ETA: Probably better in the Business section.

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 15th February 21:43

fatboy b

9,651 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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"Technically" you're not self employed. You're employed by the company you own. I'm in the same boat. I applied for our mortgage giving the company I work for (mine) as my employer.

Once they have the company details, they can then ask for the accounts details if they want - they're in the public domain at a small cost.

Edited by fatboy b on Tuesday 16th February 07:28

amir_j

3,579 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Use a specialist company catering to contractors such as contractormoney, two years accounts is usual ask

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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You own a limited company, you are NOT self-employed. Stop declaring yourself as such to anyone - insurance / mortgage / vicar, the works, and you'll find a lot of your bills come crashing down.

2-3yrs accounts is fairly normal, and if you go with a decent provider, they'll "understand" that your company may or may not have "shown" profit. They just want to see a decent through-flow of monies.

PistonReg

Original Poster:

339 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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PistonReg said:
I'm an IT contractor working through my own Ltd company. I've got 3 years of personal and company tax accounts

For a mortgage, the mortgage company will no doubt want to see my personal tax accounts (and HMRC returns) as produced by my accountant. Will they also want to see my Ltd company accounts or is that irrelevant?
Great - thanks for the advice folks. I know I'm technically employe, but the mortgage broker I spoke to said for the purposes of a mortgage, the mortgage company would class me as self employed. I've now spoken to a second mortgage broker who seems a lot more competant and knowledgeable and I'm going to go with him. I'm looking for a 3.5 times income with a 25% deposit, but it's scarey to be told as long as I could get 25% deposit, quite a few companies will still lend 5 times income happily to someone whose company has made no profit for 14 months :-O Still, I guess they're banking on the 25% equity removing their risk.

JonRB

78,517 posts

289 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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As has already been mentioned, talk to a broker who understands IT contracting. Even in the current economic climate you can still get a mortgage where your current contract and day rate is sufficient to borrow against.

The trouble with company accounts is that, unless you have a very poor accountant, they're going to be running really lean for tax purposes and may not give a true impression of your actual earning (and hence borrowing) potential.

Thurbs

2,782 posts

239 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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PistonReg said:
Great - thanks for the advice folks. I know I'm technically employe, but the mortgage broker I spoke to said for the purposes of a mortgage, the mortgage company would class me as self employed. I've now spoken to a second mortgage broker who seems a lot more competant and knowledgeable and I'm going to go with him. I'm looking for a 3.5 times income with a 25% deposit, but it's scarey to be told as long as I could get 25% deposit, quite a few companies will still lend 5 times income happily to someone whose company has made no profit for 14 months :-O Still, I guess they're banking on the 25% equity removing their risk.
Your broker is right. If you own more than 25% of the company then you are classed as self employed for the purposes of a mortgage.

A LTV of 25% is probably a minimum for a decent rate, anything less and I think I would have struggled.

The other thing I have found is the more numbers the broker (and therefore mortgage company) sees, the better.

LivingTheDream

1,763 posts

196 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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As already said - speak to Contractor Money - They've got me fantastic deals (twice).


amir_j

3,579 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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LivingTheDream said:
As already said - speak to Contractor Money - They've got me fantastic deals (twice).
But also look around at deals yourself and then point them out- I once dealt with them, gave my requirements and they came back with recommendation, In the meantime had looked around and found the one I wanted which turned out better than hers and so told her to look into that one for me


so do your own research too.

Pickled Piper

6,448 posts

252 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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RedLeicester said:
You own a limited company, you are NOT self-employed. Stop declaring yourself as such to anyone - insurance / mortgage / vicar, the works, and you'll find a lot of your bills come crashing down.

2-3yrs accounts is fairly normal, and if you go with a decent provider, they'll "understand" that your company may or may not have "shown" profit. They just want to see a decent through-flow of monies.
As above. It's not a big deal nowadays. Every man and his dog runs his own company.

pp