Elise/ Exige GT4?

[andy97]

Wonder why there wasn't one. You'd have thought it would have made a decent prospect in the GT4 class, especially as the 2-11 has been homologated for GT racing.

[Scuffers]

andy97 said:

Wonder why there wasn't one. You'd have thought it would have made a decent prospect in the GT4 class, especially as the 2-11 has been homologated for GT racing.

guess nobody put up the cash to find out if it was actually going to be up to the job.

[sdd]

GT4 Spec Evora being built at the moment............

[andy97]

Scuffers said:

andy97 said:

Wonder why there wasn't one. You'd have thought it would have made a decent prospect in the GT4 class, especially as the 2-11 has been homologated for GT racing.

guess nobody put up the cash to find out if it was actually going to be up to the job.

Yes, but they homologated the 2-11. Do Ginetta really ahve more money than Lotus to do this sort of thing?

[Scuffers]

andy97 said:

Scuffers said:

andy97 said:

Wonder why there wasn't one. You'd have thought it would have made a decent prospect in the GT4 class, especially as the 2-11 has been homologated for GT racing.

guess nobody put up the cash to find out if it was actually going to be up to the job.

Yes, but they homologated the 2-11. Do Ginetta really ahve more money than Lotus to do this sort of thing?

not really a case of money, more one of commitment and finding customer teats to run them.

Ginetta have a much better record of doing this.

[kevin ritson]

What are the tyre regs in GT4? In British GT3 a few years back the Cadena team had issues with the sidewalls on the control tyre as the car was substantially lighter than the competition. In any case, aside from blowing several engines the following year if Lotus are to fund such a venture they can go for GT4 Lightweight against the X-Bow or use the Evora, which they have, as it is in more need of a marketing push and probably a better bet overall.

Edited by kevin ritson on Wednesday 17th February 17:05

[Scuffers]

kevin ritson said:

What are the tyre regs in GT4? In British GT3 a few years back the Cadena team had issues with the sidewalls on the control tyre as the car was substantially lighter than the competition. In any case, aside from blowing several engines the following year if Lotus are to fund such a venture they can go for GT4 Lightweight against the X-Bow or use the Evora, which they have, as it is in more need of a marketing push and probably a better bet overall.

your miss-understanding the situation RE: GT3

it was not a control tyre as such, just a designated make (Avon), in the first year, it was up to each team (make) to work with Avon to develop suitable tyres for their cars, this was something *all* the teams had to go though (including me with the ProSport).

GT4 - depends on if you are talking FIA GT4 or Brit GT GT4?

FIA if your car is classed as a GT4 'light' then you have to run treaded tyres, Brit GT is still Avon Slicks (AFAIK)

to say this (development work) is a cost issue is somewhat wide of the mark....

[andy97]

Interesting to note that the GT4 Superlight Class has been dropped from Brit GT this year - the X-Bow and Lotus 2-11s etc will run in th main Brit GT GT4 class, on slicks.

[randy]

Trouble is that the GT4 class isn't particularly attractive. Even if you do go that route you have the option of a £35K Ginetta or an Aston that will hold it's value and those are quite appealing features.

[bordseye]

My guess is that they wouldnt easily be competitive. The toyota engine isnt that tuneable and the basic design of the Elise Exige as road cars makes them heavy by comparison with the likes of the Ginetta. In short they arent really a good basis for building a race car.

[Scuffers]

bordseye said:

My guess is that they wouldnt easily be competitive. The toyota engine isnt that tuneable and the basic design of the Elise Exige as road cars makes them heavy by comparison with the likes of the Ginetta. In short they arent really a good basis for building a race car.

BINGO! we have a winner!

[andy97]

But has anyone ever seen a Ginetta G50 road car....hmmm, no, me neither.

If Brit GT was actually for cars that were based on cars that were available for road use, the Elise/ Exige might be competitive in GT4.

[Scuffers]

andy97 said:

But has anyone ever seen a Ginetta G50 road car....hmmm, no, me neither.

If Brit GT was actually for cars that were based on cars that were available for road use, the Elise/ Exige might be competitive in GT4.

are you smoking something?

You can holomogate anything you like, it's the same rules for everybody.

There is no reason you can't build a Lotus that would be competitive with existing GT4 cars, it's just a case of doing the job properly.

[andy97]

Scuffers, not smoking anything, I just believe that if you are going to have a championship for GT cars, I should be able to go and buy the road going equivalent. I don't think you can, yet, for a G50, nor an Ascari. You can for the Astons, Ferraris, Porsche, Lotus 2-11, X-Bow & even the Mosler.

[shangani]

andy97 said:

But has anyone ever seen a Ginetta G50 road car....hmmm, no, me neither.

If Brit GT was actually for cars that were based on cars that were available for road use, the Elise/ Exige might be competitive in GT4.

G50 road car:

http://www.ginettacars.com/roadcar_range_details.p...

Ascari do a KZ1 road car and an even faster A10 road car.

[andy97]

Yes, seen that. Still not convinced that they actually exist yet. Might be wrong but this started as a thread about Exige/ Elise GT4s.

[Scuffers]

andy97 said:

Yes, seen that. Still not convinced that they actually exist yet. Might be wrong but this started as a thread about Exige/ Elise GT4s.

think you will find there are more G50's on the road than KTM's...

I don't disagree with your point however that it should be for ROAD homologated ROAD cars, (however that would knock out the 2-11 also).

Either way, there is no reason why an Exige could not be made competitive within GT4 other than the handicaps that Lotus have given themselves.

[andy97]

Fair enough.

I was fairly sure that the 2-11 was road homologated?

[Bibs_LEF]

They're low volume, they get SVA'd for road use.

[randy]

I don't think that the GT4 class can afford to be too picky about homologation considering the current grid sizes!