Forza tuning.
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molineux1980

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1,246 posts

240 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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Is it cheating to buy a tune on the storefront, or is it common place? Looking at my friends list, i'm normally down near the bottom in leader board times. I bought a Lotus 2/11 (?), and an A600 tune, as well as a lovely JPS paint job, and got within around a second of the fastest time within my friend list, and 8000 ish out of 1.5 million in the overall list on Camino. Should I man up, and learn how to tune myself, or is this what most people do?

Oh Gi 8

Edited by molineux1980 on Thursday 18th February 13:27

Munter

31,330 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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If you want to be competitive it's far easier to buy what you want.

Dakkon

7,827 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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I think most people do a bit of both, everyone has a few favorite cars with every mod bought for it and will fiddle with the car for hours, other cars you just buy a tune with for a specific race / reason.

GT Kodiak

2,907 posts

200 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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I'd recommend tuning your own in most cases...

A) it's cheaper

B) You know what you're getting

C) Understanding your cars tune/handling might improve your driving...

sidaorb

5,595 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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If you can get the basics always try and tune yourself, although I do a very good line in tunes to order wink but then theres a 50/50 chance that any tune you buy may not match your driving 'style'.

Although mine are quite neutral, my E275 Fiat 500 has top 100 leaderboarded since it was built, a few of my others are equally sucessful, D350 Audi A4, my problem is I'm a crap driver, so always needs someone else to LB them.

ajprice

31,869 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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There's at least one website, and iPhone (and possibly other phone) apps that give you basic tune settings if you put in the weight, tyre size, drive config etc of a car. This is what I've generally used and they usually give you a better car to drive. I say usually because I don't seem to get on well with RWD cars on my controller, and on AWD cars I tend to back off from the RWD bias a little and make it closer to 50/50.

308mate

13,758 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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We bought one for our Exige on someone elses recomendation. The car was 1.5secs a lap faster with our own tune. So we reset it.

I think half of them are snake oil.

sheps

740 posts

218 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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sidaorb said:
although I do a very good line in tunes to order wink
Tunes to order you say? Whats the price on one of those....

Dimski

2,100 posts

220 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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sidaorb said:
If you can get the basics always try and tune yourself, although I do a very good line in tunes to order wink but then theres a 50/50 chance that any tune you buy may not match your driving 'style'.

Although mine are quite neutral, my E275 Fiat 500 has top 100 leaderboarded since it was built, a few of my others are equally sucessful, D350 Audi A4, my problem is I'm a crap driver, so always needs someone else to LB them.
I liked the fiesta tune I got from you. smile

Tunes to order? Hmmm. I signed up to this:

British car championship

Would it be cheating to pay for a setup for my XFR? wink

I'm not great at setting up cars, but over the course of the PH timetrial challenge, I scored two top 15 times on the leaderboard with Storefront tunes (When set, both were 11th on the LB). No way I could have done that with my own set ups.

The problem is knowing which tunes are good/bad. And slightly dishonest sellers. I know that given a good setup I can be right at the sharp end of the Boards. But for several tracks, I used set ups from the leaderboard from people in the top 10. One clan in particular. The storefronts tunes are advertised as the same as those used for the top times, yet in spite of 100laps trying, I couldn't get within 2 seconds of them. Sometimes that was still top 100, but exactly the same tune as they used? Hmmmmm, not sure. I suspect they set the time, detuned them slightly to ensure they wouldn't be beaten with their own tunes, then storefronted them.

Dakkon

7,827 posts

274 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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The only tune I have bought which is simple amazing is the Viper one, which becomes a 4WD 100bhp monster.

sidaorb

5,595 posts

227 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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'tunes to order' prices are very much dependant on what car they are for ie if you want a Cobra Daytona I would sell the car I bought after the tune tuned.

Most of the time they will be cost + 50,000cr (my standard storefront price) although I'm open to special offers subject to make / model.

Andy I have a A600 tune already for the XF, have them listed on the AH in either Essex Police livery (one of the highest rated storefront liveries for the car) or HSBC livery, painted and tuned for 300,000cr

Matt_N

8,986 posts

223 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Dakkon said:
The only tune I have bought which is simple amazing is the Viper one, which becomes a 4WD 100bhp monster.
A real monster then!

Ive used Fuerdogs tune calculator in the past, Ive found it a pretty darn good base which can be tweaked upon. At one point my Fiat 500 was top 50 on the LB for Silverstone National.

Ive also got his Forza tune iphone app, but find the cars to be too stiff using it and reverted back to the old method o fhis using his tuning calculator, you can get the how to off the Porza forums in either list or an excel spreadsheet form.

Curry Burns

5,620 posts

236 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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I generally just apply my own 'secret' tune to the cars, then adapt if I need to, sometimes I remove it altogether.

I don't tend to buy tunes and Carl sends a few of his accross....I still use that A Class Scoob, it's bloody awesome!!!

ed1983

77 posts

209 months

sheps

740 posts

218 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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sidaorb said:
'tunes to order' prices are very much dependant on what car they are for ie if you want a Cobra Daytona I would sell the car I bought after the tune tuned.
911 gt3 rs. S class. I can send the car to you. I've done pretty well with what tune i've put on it, there is just a hint of understeer i can't get rid of.

sidaorb

5,595 posts

227 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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sheps said:
911 gt3 rs. S class. I can send the car to you. I've done pretty well with what tune i've put on it, there is just a hint of understeer i can't get rid of.
I'm assuming you still want it RWD not a 4WD conversion? If so its in the workshop being built as we speak.

sheps

740 posts

218 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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4wd im afraid. I tuned a rwd, and its lovely, can't quite finish off this one.
Has to be 4wd, for a race with some chaps off a local forum.

sidaorb

5,595 posts

227 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Arghhhhhhhh an hour getting the RWD sorted frown

Ok the 4wd is on its way shortly lol

sidaorb

5,595 posts

227 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Damn car is a LCE so cant be gifted, so I've gifted you the tune instead.

sheps

740 posts

218 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Ta very much...whats the price....smile