Tory Dinosoar Nicholas Winterton on R5
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Did anyone else catch this? I was driving over to Skipton this am and Winterton was on for an hour between 10 and 11 whinging because MP's are no loger to be allowed at travel first class at taxpayers expense. It was pure gold. The man is so detached from reality that it beggars belief. Cameron must have been banging his head against a wall.
According to Winterbore a "totally different type of person" travels standard class and he as an MP should not be required to travel alongside ordinary people.
It's worth listening to as the whole thing was hilarious and unfortunately a gift for Labour and the Lib Dems. The tories are trying to write it off as the rantings of an irrelevant backbencher who is standing down at the next election but there are plenty of other bed blockers (of all partys - see Mitchell A) sitting on safe seats who don't have a clue about the real world and I think he is symptomatic of the contempt that a lot of these morons have for the electorate.
According to Winterbore a "totally different type of person" travels standard class and he as an MP should not be required to travel alongside ordinary people.
It's worth listening to as the whole thing was hilarious and unfortunately a gift for Labour and the Lib Dems. The tories are trying to write it off as the rantings of an irrelevant backbencher who is standing down at the next election but there are plenty of other bed blockers (of all partys - see Mitchell A) sitting on safe seats who don't have a clue about the real world and I think he is symptomatic of the contempt that a lot of these morons have for the electorate.
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kingbelievable!
I am Tory to the core but that guy comes across as total pratt!
He seems to have forgotten that he is a servant of the people!
His job exists to serve us! We don't exist to provide him with a job and benefits!
Edited to add link to radio interview...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qs5yw
kingbelievable!I am Tory to the core but that guy comes across as total pratt!
He seems to have forgotten that he is a servant of the people!
His job exists to serve us! We don't exist to provide him with a job and benefits!
Edited to add link to radio interview...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qs5yw
Edited by markh1 on Thursday 18th February 14:43
bbc said:
The veteran Tory MP said there was a "totally different type of people" in standard-class train carriages.
...
Asked whether it mattered that the public might not agree with first-class travel, he said: "I'm sorry, the public are wrong."
Imagine if he would have to mix with riff-raff like us ...
Asked whether it mattered that the public might not agree with first-class travel, he said: "I'm sorry, the public are wrong."
s2art said:
YAD061 said:
Why?
Just look at the scrofulous collection of yobs, scallies and soap shy wasters you get on public transport. s2art said:
YAD061 said:
Why?
Just look at the scrofulous collection of yobs, scallies and soap shy wasters you get on public transport. I still maintain that MPs are glorified Administrators not some form of overpaid gentry
s2art said:
YAD061 said:
Why?
Just look at the scrofulous collection of yobs, scallies and soap shy wasters you get on public transport. ks. I have travelled from N Yorks to London and Manchester several times in the past few months on the train and I have not encountered that. And you can book a seat with a table so that a laptop can be used, papers spread etc.. There is no excuse for Winterton, he's an utter c
t and a disgrace to the Tories. If Cameron had any balls he would immediately remove the whip from him and his disgraceful old bag of a wife as a signal of intent. Every day that people like that remain in prominent positions within the party a hung parliament and a lib/lab pact becomes more likely.unrepentant said:
Every day that people like that remain in prominent positions within the party a hung parliament and a lib/lab pact becomes more likely.
Would that really be a bad thing? a temporary alliance until another election once turds like Winterton have been weeded out and replaced?The point he was making, which that loud-mouthed, st-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.
He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
t-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
Bluebarge said:
The point he was making, which that loud-mouthed, st-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.
He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
If it's confidential, you shouldn't be doing it in a public place at all.t-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
Bing o said:
Bluebarge said:
The point he was making, which that loud-mouthed, st-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.
He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
If it's confidential, you shouldn't be doing it in a public place at all.t-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
Allowing them to personally enrich themselves through the second homes scam is an entirely different matter...
Bluebarge said:
Bing o said:
Bluebarge said:
The point he was making, which that loud-mouthed, st-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.
He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
If it's confidential, you shouldn't be doing it in a public place at all.t-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
Winterton, having made such a fuss, went on to say that most of the time he drives to London and hardly ever takes the train! This has nothing to do with convenience and everything to do with status and the bloated ego of an out of touch old tosser who thinks he's above everyone else. He and his wife have been milking the system for years whilst achieving nothing. In 39 years as an MP he has never held any ministerial or shadow ministerial office. He is the perfect example of why safe seats are dangerous and why the number of MP's should be drastically reduced.
unrepentant said:
Bluebarge said:
Bing o said:
Bluebarge said:
The point he was making, which that loud-mouthed, st-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.
He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
If it's confidential, you shouldn't be doing it in a public place at all.t-stirring, up-himself presenter was happy to ignore, was that it is difficult to do confidential work in a standard-class train carriage, when it is possible to do it in a first-class carriage, because of the extra space and the fact that it generally carries business-folk who are usually busy working themselves.He is right.
If you have only ever boarded a train to take your washing home to Mum whilst at Uni, then I can see why you would find this hard to understand.
Winterton, having made such a fuss, went on to say that most of the time he drives to London and hardly ever takes the train! This has nothing to do with convenience and everything to do with status and the bloated ego of an out of touch old tosser who thinks he's above everyone else. He and his wife have been milking the system for years whilst achieving nothing. In 39 years as an MP he has never held any ministerial or shadow ministerial office. He is the perfect example of why safe seats are dangerous and why the number of MP's should be drastically reduced.
The £60 standard fare is an el-cheapo book-in-advance jobbie. The £360 one is a 1st class turn-up-on-the-day jobbie.
As to whether he should travel in 1st Class?
I always travel in First class - I will expect no less (unless my client objects) if I am expected to do work on the train.
There seems to be a witchunt against MPs and I do not know what the fuss is all about.
Gordon Brown wastes THREE BILLION pounds a week, yet all I hear about in the media and PH is how MPs have claimed the odd £k here or there.
PATHETIC.
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