Double Dip or Multi Dip?
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TDIPLC

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4,869 posts

229 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Anyone got any thoughts (with reasoning) on the near and medium term economic climate for the UK?

I'm concerned that a double dip is inevitable, but even more so that we'll be bouncing along the bottom for quite a while.

What do you think?


nonegreen

7,803 posts

291 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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We will never get off the bottom till we abandon the climate lies carbon bullst and stop threatening our national security by giving heavy industry to Chindia. Hous prices and shopping at tesco is not economically meaningful.

Fittster

20,120 posts

234 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Big bubble in asset prices, check.
Huge Government spending in the hope of fixing problem, check.
Bailing Out Banks, check.
Ageing demographics, check.

Japan was here 20 years ago and they are still fked.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

291 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Inflation and Interest Rates is the offshore tidal wave at the minute. It'll hit land eventually.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

291 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Fittster said:
Big bubble in asset prices, check.
Huge Government spending in the hope of fixing problem, check.
Bailing Out Banks, check.
Ageing demographics, check.

Japan was here 20 years ago and they are still fked.
Japan has manufacturing we have only nonsense

Mclovin

1,679 posts

219 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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its funny how alot of people think thats its property thats going to save them and preserve their wealth.....i reckon its property that for once property is going to be affordable as we endure a decade of stagflation....

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

228 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Only some questions and their answers might be relevant.
Can the borrowing be bought?
By whom?
At what rate?
For how long?

gamefreaks

2,045 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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I'm going for long, protracted, miserable slump.

We're going to be facing a long, hard period of maybe 10 years or so of high taxes and low public spending.

Expect lots of public sector strikes whenever cuts are mentioned, and U-turns to stop the striking. As a result of this the deficit will not get cut significantly.

The high taxes will stifle business and make them leave the UK in dribs and drabs or simply go bust causing higher unemployment, depressed wages and the deficit will not go down because of high benefit payments, causing the value of the GBP to continue to lose value and in turn, Imports will be more expensive.

A further slump in house prices when interest rates rise, as those struggling at low interest rates, lost their job, less well paid, can't afford at higher interest rates.

Generally, a stty time to be had by all.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Sounds like a depression.

GT03ROB

13,958 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Tony*T3 said:
Sounds like a depression.
Well I'm bloody depressed for a start

richardxjr

7,561 posts

231 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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gamefreaks said:
I'm going for long, protracted, miserable slump.

We're going to be facing a long, hard period of maybe 10 years or so of high taxes and low public spending.

Expect lots of public sector strikes whenever cuts are mentioned, and U-turns to stop the striking. As a result of this the deficit will not get cut significantly.

The high taxes will stifle business and make them leave the UK in dribs and drabs or simply go bust causing higher unemployment, depressed wages and the deficit will not go down because of high benefit payments, causing the value of the GBP to continue to lose value and in turn, Imports will be more expensive.

A further slump in house prices when interest rates rise, as those struggling at low interest rates, lost their job, less well paid, can't afford at higher interest rates.

Generally, a stty time to be had by all.
I have to agree. Many, many business that have somehow held on over the last two years will fold. Mine included. I've had enough of the hassle and cost of employing people and trying to survive with the rising cost of imports and all other overheads. We've got tax and interest hikes looming.

I've had enough. I will become a one-man band middleman and will pay as little tax as I can get away with. The storm is coming and I am running for cover.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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gamefreaks said:
I'm going for long, protracted, miserable slump.

We're going to be facing a long, hard period of maybe 10 years or so of high taxes and low public spending.

Expect lots of public sector strikes whenever cuts are mentioned, and U-turns to stop the striking. As a result of this the deficit will not get cut significantly.

The high taxes will stifle business and make them leave the UK in dribs and drabs or simply go bust causing higher unemployment, depressed wages and the deficit will not go down because of high benefit payments, causing the value of the GBP to continue to lose value and in turn, Imports will be more expensive.

A further slump in house prices when interest rates rise, as those struggling at low interest rates, lost their job, less well paid, can't afford at higher interest rates.

Generally, a stty time to be had by all.
You have just decribed (socialist) Spain!