BA cabin crew vote to strike again
BA cabin crew vote to strike again
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gingerpaul

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2,929 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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"Breaking News: British Airways cabin crew vote 8-1 in favour of strike action - Sky News"

This cannot be good news can it? I wonder when they're planning on doing it this time. In time for their easter holidays perhaps?

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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They've nothing to lose. They are £15k a year trolley dollies earning £35k.

Sh t or bust.



Scumbags.

nonuts

15,855 posts

253 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Idiots, at this rate BA will be even more on it's arse and none of them will have jobs. I wonder if any of them realise that?

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Soovy said:
They are £15k a year trolley dollies earning £35k.
Many of the senior LHR crews are on much more than that.


gingerpaul

Original Poster:

2,929 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Ok, so what if they don't back down, strike and cost BA lots of money and further damage its reputation. Will BA management have to back down to prevent further loses? I know a lot of people on here won't book BA if they can avoid it at the moment. I have a dilemma of whether to book BA for a wedding in June where there are few options avialable on the route I would like to use and I have delayed booking to see if they were going to strike again.

If they do strike what will be the view of the cabin crew with the rest of the people in BA who have agreed to new contract terms to save money? Also have are the unions managed to convince the younger cabin crew that it is in their interests to strike when they will never see the benefits that the older crew currently get?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Soovy said:
They've nothing to lose. They are £15k a year trolley dollies earning £35k.

Sh t or bust.



Scumbags.
Take that back! My ex-wife is a BA trolley dolley! Erm... as you were....

BTW I was talking to some BA staff last week and the plan AFAIK is that there will be a series of one day strikes rather than last year's "Christmas Beano" which the stupid unions now realise, rightly, garnered great public approbrium. One day strikes take weeks to get things straight afterwards, so it's just as bad really.

The training centres in Waterside/Compass Centre is currently packed with middle management on SEP courss learning how to be scabs. Apparently doing a day's work it has come as a great shock to some of these folk, I'd love to be on a flight from Gatwick to Palma de Majorca with some chavs and see how a deputy assistant manager from business product relationship marketing copes with having her arse groped and being sworn at. And that's just by the strikers going on holiday!

Anyway IMO, the unions are lose cannons, they know the party's over but just can't accept it. I'm just surprised that Wee Willy Walsh still looks like a clueless rabbit caught in the headlights.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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anonymous said:
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They just let GB Airways slip through their fingers and get sold to Easyjet... DOH!... along with GB's Heathrow and Gatwick slots, which they could have then given up to satidfy the regulator for the BA/AA tie up. DOH again!

They deserve to fail, they really do!

fatboy b

9,663 posts

240 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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I was watching that tt Len McClusky on the news last last. Exactly what world is he living in??

shout There is a recession on and costs have to be saved in order to compete or you'll all lose you jobs.

turbobloke

116,047 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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fatboy b said:
I was watching that tt Len McClusky on the news last last. Exactly what world is he living in??
Planet Socialism

fatboy b said:
shout There is a recession on and costs have to be saved in order to compete or you'll all lose you jobs.
yes
This seems to be the aim when seeing beyond the end of your own nose is too difficult.

theironduke

6,995 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Utter morons.

Really hope that BA sack the lot of them.


JRM

2,065 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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They are just going to destroy the hand that feeds, so short-sighted.

Interesting that a number of pilots have said they'll work cabin crew shifts to keep things running - but then they have brains and can see what the effect of all this is, where as the trolley dollies are just too thick to work it out.

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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There is a display of not being adapted sufficiently to their environment by these gibbons. What we will see is the destruction of both gibbons and habitat.

Bunch of idiots driven by a bunch of commies.

Market forces at work, regardless of idiocy.

I wonder who will buy the planes. smile

apprentice

1,219 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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I was chatting to a mate who is a BA Pilot and he was shaking his head in utter frustration, whilst suggesting that a large proportion of BA strikers really have no idea what they are doing!

Edited by apprentice on Tuesday 23 February 11:00

fatboy b

9,663 posts

240 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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apprentice said:
I was chatting to a mate who is a BA Pilot and he was shaking his head in utter frustration, whilst suggesting that a large proportion of BA strikers really have no idea what they are doing!

Edited by apprentice on Tuesday 23 February 11:00
Yep - that sounds about right. Running around like a herd of sheep looking for a leader, and Len Mcchops stands up.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

271 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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fatboy b said:
apprentice said:
I was chatting to a mate who is a BA Pilot and he was shaking his head in utter frustration, whilst suggesting that a large proportion of BA strikers really have no idea what they are doing!

Edited by apprentice on Tuesday 23 February 11:00
Yep - that sounds about right. Running around like a herd of sheep looking for a leader, and Len Mcchops stands up.
To be fair, BA flight deck took a pay cut. But they're still rather over paid and BALPA is pretty militant itself.

grumbledoak

32,405 posts

257 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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We're flying around the world fairly soon, to show the nipper to his grandparents. Guess which airline didn't even get considered (other than AA, obviously)... The dole beckons for these muppets. Though no doubt not so for the communist union leaders who are orchestrating it.

528Sport

1,464 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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I bet they all think they will just walk into new jobs as well when/if BA folds.
Silly people.


bobbylondonuk

2,204 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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remind me as an immigrant why BA cant fire the losers and replace them with lower paid staff? I think BA is fair to retain majority of current staff at reduced T&C in light of market conditions facing the business. What is the legal situation if a business cannot afford certain costs and must cut it?

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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bobbylondonuk said:
remind me as an immigrant why BA cant fire the losers and replace them with lower paid staff? I think BA is fair to retain majority of current staff at reduced T&C in light of market conditions facing the business. What is the legal situation if a business cannot afford certain costs and must cut it?
Employees raaaahts.

Should have put them all on zero hours contracts or hired agency staff.

Employees raaaats are a soviet spanner in the works of commerce.

bobbylondonuk

2,204 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Tangent Police said:
bobbylondonuk said:
remind me as an immigrant why BA cant fire the losers and replace them with lower paid staff? I think BA is fair to retain majority of current staff at reduced T&C in light of market conditions facing the business. What is the legal situation if a business cannot afford certain costs and must cut it?
Employees raaaahts.

Should have put them all on zero hours contracts or hired agency staff.

Employees raaaats are a soviet spanner in the works of commerce.
Surprised...very surprised to see union reps cannot understand the bigger dynamics of the business and advise their members accordingly. This sort of behaviour makes BA's redundancy bill for all cabin crew cheaper than a 10 day strike!

let em all go..move HQ to spain, rehire at lower rates and make some money for shareholders. There are small businesses and medium sized ones dependant on BA as a company spending money. For all of those enterprises, BA needs to man up and function like a business, not a govt enterprise!