PM's questions......24th Feb

[CastrolCraig.]

winky getting stuffed reet royally.

even the speaker bringing up the bullying issue!!

[Andy Zarse]

CMD is quite hopeless again. One-eye's dodged every punch thrown without even breaking into a sweat. No mention of bullying, a pathetic attack on the govt economic record and some pointless sparring about the Badger and spin doctors.

[M3333]

I am becoming more convinced by the day that CMD wants winky to win the election with a small majority and weak power.

Everytime Brown stands up and spouts his utter st back at the Tories i can see CMD's eyes thinking 'we shall see soon sonny'.

Makes perfect sense. Let Brown back in with a small Majority, watch him and Labour sink in the st they have created and see them kicked into Political Oblivion for a very very long time.

If the Tories win then they may only get one term, the next 5 years is going to be an interesting one in politics.....

I can think of no other reason for the Tories behavior, CMD may appear to be a bit 'blairite' but he has a bloody good team behind him working in the background.

I believe this is the plan and quite frankly it is genious.

[Gaspode]

M3333 said:

I am becoming more convinced by the day that CMD wants winky to win the election with a small majority and weak power.

Everytime Brown stands up and spouts his utter st back at the Tories i can see CMD's eyes thinking 'we shall see soon sonny'.

Makes perfect sense. Let Brown back in with a small Majority, watch him and Labour sink in the st they have created and see them kicked into Political Oblivion for a very very long time.

If the Tories win then they may only get one term, the next 5 years is going to be an interesting one in politics.....

I can think of no other reason for the Tories behavior, CMD may appear to be a bit 'blairite' but he has a bloody good team behind him working in the background.

I believe this is the plan and quite frankly it is genious.

I'm not completely sure it's a conscious plan, but I agree that it would be better for the Tories if Labour win the election. Whether it would be better for the country, however, is a different matter. Either way, given the current wave of protests across Europe at government belt-tightening policies, and given the UK Chav's enthusiasm for fighting, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a summer of rioting ahead of us. Whichever party is in government is going to have to consider making some pretty large cuts in public expenditure, which isn't going to sit well with the lumpenproletariat.

[Andy Zarse]

M3333 said:

I am becoming more convinced by the day that CMD wants winky to win the election with a small majority and weak power.

Everytime Brown stands up and spouts his utter st back at the Tories i can see CMD's eyes thinking 'we shall see soon sonny'.

Makes perfect sense. Let Brown back in with a small Majority, watch him and Labour sink in the st they have created and see them kicked into Political Oblivion for a very very long time.

If the Tories win then they may only get one term, the next 5 years is going to be an interesting one in politics.....

I can think of no other reason for the Tories behavior, CMD may appear to be a bit 'blairite' but he has a bloody good team behind him working in the background.

I believe this is the plan and quite frankly it is genious.

I always felt it was a terrible shame John Major won the 1992 election. I was in New Zealand at the time, and there was no internet in those days of course, so I relied on the World Service and the expat weekly Daily Express (FFS) for news.

If only the Welsh Windbag Kinnoccio had kept his trap shut at the Labour Rock Concert, "Well alllll-righhtt!!!", he'd have had a shoe-in. And then had to deal with the ERM debacle, recession, Maastricht et al. We'd then have had another decade of proper conservatism from 1997 on (if Lab had lasted that long by then).

Whilst I'm sure CMD can see this, there's no way it's polocy, whether stated or otherwise.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

If CMD can't win with the start he had then I think the party will bin him and replace him with Hague.

[Dave Angel]

unrepentant said:

If CMD can't win with the start he had then I think the party will bin him and replace him with Hague.

+1

The sooner the better too, CMD is so bland he makes Major look interesting

(think 'Spitting Image' here)

[Ed Fender]

Major was surprisingly charismatic in the flesh (insert Edwina ref here). And a decent bloke, let down by a number of turds in cabinet and on the back benches.

If CMD thinks he'll do himself any good by failing to win the election, he's nuts. Finklestein has an interesting, if less than persuasive piece, in today's Times about the Tory view on current polling.

All things considered I'm off to UKIP.

[Pickled Piper]

CastrolCraig. said:

winky getting stuffed reet royally.

even the speaker bringing up the bullying issue!!

Really? It looked like Brown was doing OK with a non existent opposition from where I was standing.

pp

[Mon Ami Mate]

Ed Fender said:

All things considered I'm going to give Gordon a hand.

EFA

[mattviatura]

I seem to say every week now that Cameron is wasting the mother of all golden opportunities. Just had a long chat with a customer who is pinning all his hopes on a belief that the Conservatives are keeping their powder dry for the right moment. I have a lot of time for the guy's (my customer) opinion but I have to say that I can't share his optimism.

Five more years of tax, waste and regulation here we come.

Edited because I forgot to mention that Bercow is a self-important wancker.

Edited by mattviatura on Wednesday 24th February 15:42

[Ed Fender]

Mon Ami Mate said:

Ed Fender said:

All things considered I'm going to give Gordon a hand.

EFA

I'm in a Tory constituency with a large majority, so no.

Task 1- get rid of Gordon.
Task 2- give CMD a kick up the arse.

I am unable to participate in 1 but will cheerfully lend a vote to 2.

Edited by Ed Fender on Wednesday 24th February 16:02

[Andy Zarse]

Ed Fender said:

Mon Ami Mate said:

Ed Fender said:

All things considered I'm going to give Gordon a hand.

EFA

I'm in a Tory constituency with a large majority, so no.

Task 1- get rid of Gordon.
Task 2- give CMD a kick up the arse.

I am unable to participate in 1 but will cheerfully lend a vote to 2.

Edited by Ed Fender on Wednesday 24th February 16:02

Me too. I wouldn't mind giving a kick up the arse to our horrible current Tory MP Francis Fraud Maud. So I'm safe voting UKIP and giving CMD a reminder of what he should be saying and doing.

[dirkgently]

Mon Ami Mate said:

Ed Fender said:

All things considered I'm going to give Gordon a hand.

EFA

If that`s the way it is then so be it. Its UKIP for me unless the Conservatives earn my vote.

[Einion Yrth]

dirkgently said:

Mon Ami Mate said:

Ed Fender said:

All things considered I'm going to give Gordon a hand.

EFA

If that`s the way it is then so be it. Its UKIP for me unless the Conservatives earn my vote.

I am finding it increasingly difficult to understand why I should be trying to return as PM a man with every appearance of being Bliar with less personality.

[5unny]

In an ideal world we get:-

1 - A tiny Labour majority in a hung parliament. McBroon carries on as PM and his handling of the economy and mistakes of the past are truly exposed to the nation in the coming months.

2 - CMD and Boy George are kicked out with some real conservatives taking over the party leadership.

3 - Election called 6 months later and the Tories win with a thumping majority.


But in reality Blair Mark II will win and things will improve but just slightly and we can all continue to moan on PH.

[andy43]

M3333 said:

I am becoming more convinced by the day that CMD wants winky to win the election with a small majority and weak power.

Everytime Brown stands up and spouts his utter st back at the Tories i can see CMD's eyes thinking 'we shall see soon sonny'.

Makes perfect sense. Let Brown back in with a small Majority, watch him and Labour sink in the st they have created and see them kicked into Political Oblivion for a very very long time.

If the Tories win then they may only get one term, the next 5 years is going to be an interesting one in politics.....

I can think of no other reason for the Tories behavior, CMD may appear to be a bit 'blairite' but he has a bloody good team behind him working in the background.

I believe this is the plan and quite frankly it is genious.

I'm guessing whoever wins this time will be in for the next four years, and out for the following forty.

Looks like a cunning plan - tories playing the long game.

[anonymous-user]

andy43 said:

I'm guessing whoever wins this time will be in for the next four years, and out for the following forty.

Looks like a cunning plan - tories playing the long game.

Cameron really is not that bright.

[CastrolCraig.]

Pickled Piper said:

CastrolCraig. said:

winky getting stuffed reet royally.

even the speaker bringing up the bullying issue!!

Really? It looked like Brown was doing OK with a non existent opposition from where I was standing.

pp

not from where im standing (and im/was a labout voter)

he was hesitant, couldnt answer questions with a simple yes or no.

i agree on the CMD line though, it seems neither winky or him want the top job.

maybe clegnut can sneak in.

[Ed Fender]

unrepentant said:

andy43 said:

I'm guessing whoever wins this time will be in for the next four years, and out for the following forty.

Looks like a cunning plan - tories playing the long game.

Cameron really is not that bright.

Not only that, but it's a massively risky strategy (not just for CMD personally, but for the Tories as a party). There is no way that any party can play to "lose slightly". For one thing our electoral system does not allow for such fine calculations and for another, neither does human nature.

Imagine the strategy meetings at Central Office over a period of 6 months:
"Right chaps, Item one. We've got to be a bit better than Gordon, but remember, everyone hates him so we've got to be a bit st too."

Mind you, they seem to be achieving something like this, albeit unintentionally.

The other problem is that nobody has a crystal ball telling them what state the economy will be in next year- most of us suspect that we'll be living in hedges and drinking piss out of rusty hubcaps by 2011, but who knows? Certainly not the bunch of helmets in HMT. Or, for that matter, George Osbourne.

If things pick up, and Gordon's still in office, either with a narrow majority or in coalition with some other collection of raving one-eyed queens, then Gordon wins long term (note- this is not a likely scenario).
And CMD will become Neil Kinnock with nicer breath.