The Bloom Box, is this the answer???
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Guys this look interesting, or could this guy start the next energy war?
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228923n&am...
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228923n&am...
ks.I can get behind the theory.
It's still fossil fuel powered, but instead of the energy being released by combustion>piston/crank movement>electrical generator it does it by some form of electrolysis/fuel cell magic. If you take into account that the energy produced is not as much as burning the fuel, but you don't have the inherent losses of the traditional generator system I can see the idea at least being feasible.
I mean you can get a small 1 cyl motorcycle engine to produce about 10-20KW so perhaps you could get this to provide 5-10KW in something the size of an oven which would be enough to power a normal house (don't ask my why I chose oven).
Provided the theory works of course, and to believe that I'll actually want to know every detail and watch it working with my own eyes.
It's still fossil fuel powered, but instead of the energy being released by combustion>piston/crank movement>electrical generator it does it by some form of electrolysis/fuel cell magic. If you take into account that the energy produced is not as much as burning the fuel, but you don't have the inherent losses of the traditional generator system I can see the idea at least being feasible.
I mean you can get a small 1 cyl motorcycle engine to produce about 10-20KW so perhaps you could get this to provide 5-10KW in something the size of an oven which would be enough to power a normal house (don't ask my why I chose oven).
Provided the theory works of course, and to believe that I'll actually want to know every detail and watch it working with my own eyes.
From what I've read, the revolutionary part of this technology is that it frees the user from the existing power monopolies.
Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
I believe Google and Ebay are already using these devices to power their premises.
Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
I believe Google and Ebay are already using these devices to power their premises.
youngsyr said:
the revolutionary part of this technology is that it frees the user from the existing power monopolies.
Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
Not exactly revolutionary.Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
mrmr96 said:
youngsyr said:
the revolutionary part of this technology is that it frees the user from the existing power monopolies.
Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
Not exactly revolutionary.Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
I believe a Bloombox the size of a microwave can power an average household silently and with very low emissions.
That's the revolutionary part.
youngsyr said:
From what I've read, the revolutionary part of this technology is that it frees the user from the existing power monopolies.
Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
I believe Google and Ebay are already using these devices to power their premises.
I read somewhere that some of the total power consumption for Google's data centres are coming from these devices. Stick spectacularly expensive to buy, but frees them from the standard route for electricity and provides an excuse to call themselves green. Could be interesting if it gets cheap. Essentially there's no longer a need to be connected to the national grid, you have control of your power generation on site (assuming you can maintain a fuel supply).
I believe Google and Ebay are already using these devices to power their premises.
Is this one that uses something like brown / green paint?
crofty1984 said:
I can get behind the theory.
It's still fossil fuel powered, but instead of the energy being released by combustion>piston/crank movement>electrical generator it does it by some form of electrolysis/fuel cell magic. If you take into account that the energy produced is not as much as burning the fuel, but you don't have the inherent losses of the traditional generator system I can see the idea at least being feasible.
I mean you can get a small 1 cyl motorcycle engine to produce about 10-20KW so perhaps you could get this to provide 5-10KW in something the size of an oven which would be enough to power a normal house (don't ask my why I chose oven).
Provided the theory works of course, and to believe that I'll actually want to know every detail and watch it working with my own eyes.
It's "just" a fuel cell, powered by hydrocarbons. But the claimed 50% efficiency knocks pretty much every other source - diesel generator, the grid - into a cocked hat. Space efficiency is also realistic - this first model can run a decent sized office building, or quite a few houses in a realisitic space (small as a small sub station transformer, even with a large fuel tank). If it proves scalable as has been suggested, it could work in vehicles, even laptop computers.It's still fossil fuel powered, but instead of the energy being released by combustion>piston/crank movement>electrical generator it does it by some form of electrolysis/fuel cell magic. If you take into account that the energy produced is not as much as burning the fuel, but you don't have the inherent losses of the traditional generator system I can see the idea at least being feasible.
I mean you can get a small 1 cyl motorcycle engine to produce about 10-20KW so perhaps you could get this to provide 5-10KW in something the size of an oven which would be enough to power a normal house (don't ask my why I chose oven).
Provided the theory works of course, and to believe that I'll actually want to know every detail and watch it working with my own eyes.
The hydrocarbon fuel cell has another couple of benefits:
- The fuel is very space and weight efficient, way above other preferred routes (chemical batteries, compressed hydrogen) and relatively safe.
- Whilst it inevitably produces CO2, biofuels would mean a very short lifecycle. Combined with the higher efficiency, you're into a very efficient cycle whatever your hang up.
If you watch the whole video you will see that Google and Ebay and bought into it. Once you factor in the scaleability and mass production then the economies of scale will bring the price down to an affordable level. And the fact that it can run of almost any available combustable gas I have to say this has got me excited
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