At what point would my house need a pub license?

[Hedders]

This is hypothetical scenario, but humour me.

If i decided to turn the downstairs of my house into a meeting point for my freinds (and their freinds), when would i need a license?

I would not be selling any alcohol as they could bring their own or drink mine and replace it. I might make a little cash from them using my pool table, renting my dart board or Plates and glasses and buying food not made on the premises or something like that. There would be no employee's as no one would be working.

Let us also pretend my house is very detatched and i have lots of parking and no neighbours for the sake of this discussion.

Would it be 'permitted'?

Edited by Hedders on Saturday 27th February 11:24

[sneijder]

The state of your downstairs khazi wouldn't be permitted.

[Four Cofffee]

Hedders said:

This is hypothetical scenario, but humour me.

If i decided to turn the downstairs of my house into a meeting point for my freinds (and their freinds), when would i need a license?

I would not be selling any alcohol as they could bring their own or drink mine and replace it. I might make a little cash from them using my pool table, renting my dart board or Plates and glasses and buying food not made on the premises or something like that. There would be no employee's as no one would be working.

Let us also pretend my house is very detatched and i have lots of parking and no neighbours for the sake of this discussion.

Would it be 'permitted'?

I think the key thing is 'sale or supply' of alcohol. More likely to get the council after you for running a business without paying business rates.

Edited by Hedders on Saturday 27th February 11:24

[Hedders]

What would my business be though, Rental of leisure equipment, and plates and glasses?

I could pay tax on that

[rpguk]

The old trick at parties used to be to sell raffle tickets and everyone 'won' a drink. This didn't need an alcohol licence as it used the exemption for village fete tombola's.

However I understand that's been cracked down on now, but my brain is not all to with it right now with respect to how!

There is a 'members club' I frequent in London which is just like this and a bit of a speakeasy to boot. They seem to have gotten away with it for a long time by being discrete and of course it's always a private party.

[chim]

Tip box, you can not charge for anything or it is a business, even if it is only pool.

[Hedders]

chim said:

Tip box, you can not charge for anything or it is a business, even if it is only pool.

I realise that i would have to pay taxes on any money i made from my leisure equipment rental, that is not an issue.

[Hedders]

rpguk said:

There is a 'members club' I frequent in London which is just like this and a bit of a speakeasy to boot. They seem to have gotten away with it for a long time by being discrete and of course it's always a private party.

This place is not a licensed establishment?

There may be hope

[Matt Harper]

Your neighbors would love it too - and the old bill.

[chim]

Matt Harper said:

Your neighbors would love it too - and the old bill.

If you are not selling drink you do not need a license, my suggestion on the tip box was to avoid any business set up at all. A lot of poker clubs run like this.

Edited by chim on Saturday 27th February 15:31

[Cock Womble]

Matt Harper said:

Your neighbors would love it too - and the old bill.

Hedders said:

Let us also pretend my house is very detached and I have lots of parking and no neighbours for the sake of this discussion.

[Matt Harper]

Cock Womble said:

Matt Harper said:

Your neighbors would love it too - and the old bill.

Hedders said:

Let us also pretend my house is very detached and I have lots of parking and no neighbours for the sake of this discussion.

Oops. Thanks for the correction CW. - Just the old bill then.

[Cock Womble]

Matt Harper said:

Cock Womble said:

Matt Harper said:

Your neighbors would love it too - and the old bill.

Hedders said:

Let us also pretend my house is very detached and I have lots of parking and no neighbours for the sake of this discussion.

Oops. Thanks for the correction CW. - Just the old bill then.

I think if it was "very detached" (and not causing a riot every night) then Plod wouldn't be that bothered either.