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I've just been for an assertive and extended blatt in one of these again.
Its been a couple of years. I had forgotten what a thoroughly agreeable and downright naughty car it is !
Extremely rapid, sure of its footing, and possessed of a curiously "mechanical" quality.
More modern cars somehow try to insulate the driver from the process of metal pieces meshing together- the 993 Turbo somehow celebrates the fact. You can sense the connection of oiled components everywhere, from steering to gearbox to brake. Even through the seat.
What a lovely car. And they age well to - this one had over 85,000 miles on the clock and it felt ready to do it all again.
A classic Porsche. The boys from Stuttgart did good. Its a mistake to forget some of the older stuff - I don't think anything short of a new GT3 ( or maybe a 993 RS) would be as much fun.
Recommended !
Its been a couple of years. I had forgotten what a thoroughly agreeable and downright naughty car it is !
Extremely rapid, sure of its footing, and possessed of a curiously "mechanical" quality.
More modern cars somehow try to insulate the driver from the process of metal pieces meshing together- the 993 Turbo somehow celebrates the fact. You can sense the connection of oiled components everywhere, from steering to gearbox to brake. Even through the seat.
What a lovely car. And they age well to - this one had over 85,000 miles on the clock and it felt ready to do it all again.
A classic Porsche. The boys from Stuttgart did good. Its a mistake to forget some of the older stuff - I don't think anything short of a new GT3 ( or maybe a 993 RS) would be as much fun.
Recommended !
Oh alright...if you insist!
Yet more phenomenal descriptive prose from the boy TS; utterly incisive; bravo, to the power k/n-1(theta).
It is more honed than a honing device which has been recalibrated by the ultimate honing instrument in the universe and then re-honed just for the hell of it by Honer von Hoonerheim, Field Kommendant of Frederick the Great's Household Honing Guard.
Please buy one then we can inter-bounce comparative hyperboles; since the demise of the Hogric Master I don't think there are too many of us left with cold air 'midst the blowing.
The best thing is just how much better the car's potential allows it to become...
Joy to the world.
Yet more phenomenal descriptive prose from the boy TS; utterly incisive; bravo, to the power k/n-1(theta).
It is more honed than a honing device which has been recalibrated by the ultimate honing instrument in the universe and then re-honed just for the hell of it by Honer von Hoonerheim, Field Kommendant of Frederick the Great's Household Honing Guard.
Please buy one then we can inter-bounce comparative hyperboles; since the demise of the Hogric Master I don't think there are too many of us left with cold air 'midst the blowing.
The best thing is just how much better the car's potential allows it to become...
Joy to the world.
derestrictor said:
It is more honed than a honing device which has been recalibrated by the ultimate honing instrument in the universe and then re-honed just for the hell of it by Honer von Hoonerheim, Field Kommendant of Frederick the Great's Household Honing Guard.
Joy to the world.
I have a old ( 50yrs plus) Rolex chronometer. I rarely wear it. But I enjoy its mechanistic soul.
The 993 Turbo is the same, writ large.
Most alluring.
I have been left yearning for something by my 996. It is a Swatch to that Rolex.
As a GT3 is not viable, maybe a blown piece of air cooled heroics is the way forward...
Joy to the world ? Indeed.
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The main advantage the 996 has is the longer/wider track (IIRC) and better aerodynamics.
Not sure what you mean re trade? Dealers love any car they can make money from. The OPCs won't touch v old or high mileage Porsches of any nature, whilst independents will. With a good service history and decent maintenance regime the trade will be happy buying a Turbo 4; there will always be a buyer for a good one and most of the depreciation has been lost already. RHD ones start at 38.5k, LHD ones at 32-33k.
Rgds
Domster
>> Edited by domster on Monday 16th February 10:36
The main advantage the 996 has is the longer/wider track (IIRC) and better aerodynamics.
Not sure what you mean re trade? Dealers love any car they can make money from. The OPCs won't touch v old or high mileage Porsches of any nature, whilst independents will. With a good service history and decent maintenance regime the trade will be happy buying a Turbo 4; there will always be a buyer for a good one and most of the depreciation has been lost already. RHD ones start at 38.5k, LHD ones at 32-33k.
Rgds
Domster
>> Edited by domster on Monday 16th February 10:36
domster said:
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RHD ones start at 38.5k, LHD ones at 32-33k.
Rgds
Domster
>> Edited by domster on Monday 16th February 10:36
Didn't think the RHD cars had crept under the 40's yet. Cheapest I have been seeing advertised are in the 40's - I think RSJ have one with 72k miles for £41k. Apart from 911 Virgin, Paragon, Cridfords and Northway could anyone recommend any other retailers in SE England I could look at.
My 993 C2 had 79k miles on when I sold it, and never missed a heartbeat. Are Turbos good for this sort of mileage without any major hiccups?
Thanks
ek993 said:
Didn't think the RHD cars had crept under the 40's yet. Cheapest I have been seeing advertised are in the 40's - I think RSJ have one with 72k miles for £41k.
Check the RSJ website, that car has just been reduced in price to £38.5k. Also I know Henry at 911 Virgin sold one first thing in the new year for under the magic £40k mark. It went so quick you may have missed it! Also Camtune had one for under £40k around that time.
>> Edited by chris_n on Monday 16th February 10:58
>> Edited by chris_n on Monday 16th February 10:59
Plotloss said:
RHD £39K to £50K seems to be the range.
I agree and they’ve been stuck in this range for over a year now. I bought mine about seven months ago and found that like with most things, you get what you pay for. I went to see a couple in the £38k to £40k region and found that they weren’t as looked after as the higher priced examples. I found that paying a bit more meant that I could get a really nice one.
I bought mine privately so for added peace of mind I got an OPC to inspect it for £150 and I also bought a 1yr warrantee from them for £950.
ek993 said:
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RHD ones start at 38.5k, LHD ones at 32-33k.
Rgds
Domster
>> Edited by domster on Monday 16th February 10:36
Didn't think the RHD cars had crept under the 40's yet. Cheapest I have been seeing advertised are in the 40's - I think RSJ have one with 72k miles for £41k. Apart from 911 Virgin, Paragon, Cridfords and Northway could anyone recommend any other retailers in SE England I could look at.
My 993 C2 had 79k miles on when I sold it, and never missed a heartbeat. Are Turbos good for this sort of mileage without any major hiccups?
Thanks
Keep up ek... my info is always bang up to date
. I had heard about the 38.5k price reduced one at RSJ the other day. I didn't want to mention RSJ again as people already think I'm best mates with Joel
rubystone said:
What's the cheapest lhd anyone's seen? I really rate these cars and I reckon one'd make a sensible "only" car, especially in lhd (which I'm not bothered about)
OK, how about this one.
http://tinyurl.com/ys528
510bhp of Bavarian beef, yours for just £28,300 according to the latest exchange rate.
Dom - I dropped into RSJ on Saturday and mentioned your name to Joel. He certainly knows you well
He had a couple of dark coloured 993 Turbos which looked nice, but what caught my eye was a yellow 993 Turbo S - a very rare wee beastie. £125K new, now £57K - sold of course. Good selection of 993's in RSJ.
Northway have a dark coloured lhd 993 Turbo with 40,000 miles at £35K. I was gobsmacked - never realised they were getting that cheap! (considering the original retail price of these cars)
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He had a couple of dark coloured 993 Turbos which looked nice, but what caught my eye was a yellow 993 Turbo S - a very rare wee beastie. £125K new, now £57K - sold of course. Good selection of 993's in RSJ.
Northway have a dark coloured lhd 993 Turbo with 40,000 miles at £35K. I was gobsmacked - never realised they were getting that cheap! (considering the original retail price of these cars)
E
domster said:
Keep up ek... my info is always bang up to date
I had heard about the 38.5k price reduced one at RSJ the other day. I didn't want to mention RSJ again as people already think I'm best mates with Joel
Are their issues with buying a Turbo with this much mileage (it wouldn't bother me on a n/a car) - what sort of mileage are the Turbo chargers good for? (I know this is very much dependent on type of use / maintenance, but as a general broad guide)
Thanks
ek993 said:
Keep up ek... my info is always bang up to date
I had heard about the 38.5k price reduced one at RSJ the other day. I didn't want to mention RSJ again as people already think I'm best mates with Joel
Are their issues with buying a Turbo with this much mileage (it wouldn't bother me on a n/a car) - what sort of mileage are the Turbo chargers good for? (I know this is very much dependent on type of use / maintenance, but as a general broad guide)
Thanks
Hard to know about the state of the turbos until they let go...
But, if you get a car inspected the turbos can be checked for leaks, and also check the bar pressure when they spool up. If the car has been on a good drive a sympathetic driver would let the engine idle for a minute or two to cool down the turbos rather than just turn the engine off.
If the engine is just turned off the very high heat will just sink into the turbos and the engine and this can cause carbon build ups - which eventually lead to premature turbo failure as they get coked up. Boost levels and an external inspection help - as does an examination of the car. A neglected or tatty one might not have been treated with the required respect !
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