My first vintage port
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Nefarious

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989 posts

289 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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I've been into drinking port for a little while now, but have mostly avoided excessively expensive bottles for the same reasons I mostly do with wines - diminishing marginal returns, and generally poor percieved value.

But it was my birthday a few weeks ago, and I decided the treat myself to a bottle of the Dows Quinta do Bomfim 1998 that a few of the supermarkets stock at around £25. I also acquired a decanter specially for the purpose.

Well, over the weekend, a friend was visiting and curiosity got the better of me, so I decided to crack open that badboy.

What can I say! It was absolutely awesome. So different from the £10 LBVs I usually drink that it could've been a completely different drink - so much more complex with so much more subtley and nuance of flavour.

All I can say is I'm a complete convert and the decanter is going to be seeing a lot more use. If you haven't tried the proper vintage stuff, it really is an eye-opener in a way that a £25 bottle of wine never has been IME.

Next step - go halves with a friend on a case of a proper declared vintage...

sherman

14,957 posts

239 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Oddbins by PC world in Corstorphine usually have a nice selection for a reasonable price.

Bebs

3,031 posts

305 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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yes

I had a bottle of Burmester 1982 on Saturday with the missus. There's nothing like vintage port. Pure candy in a glass drink

Don

28,378 posts

308 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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I went on an excellent Port Tasting tour of the Oporto port houses and the surrounding region. What an eye-opener. It was superb.

What I discovered was that a truly excellent Tawny port does it for me in a way it's hard for Vintage to match and you don't have to finish the bottle in a sitting. Ha. Like it was going back in the cupboard.

LBV is generally a disappointment I have to say.

Bebs

3,031 posts

305 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Agreed Don. LBV is mass produced rubbish. Nothing to do with vintage port nono very clever marketing though.

HiRich

3,337 posts

286 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Bebs said:
LBV is mass produced rubbish.
Most LBV is mass produced rubbish, but a handful, particularly Taylor's can be rather handy. Contrary to received wisdom, it can also appreciate in the bottle. A run through some old Taylor's LBVs back to 1989 proved the older ones smooth but still structured, and much nicer than the 'off-the-shelf' 2003.
Still a facsimile of the real thing, but pound for pound mighty impressive.

Bebs

3,031 posts

305 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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HiRich said:
Bebs said:
LBV is mass produced rubbish.
Most LBV is mass produced rubbish, but a handful, particularly Taylor's can be rather handy. Contrary to received wisdom, it can also appreciate in the bottle. A run through some old Taylor's LBVs back to 1989 proved the older ones smooth but still structured, and much nicer than the 'off-the-shelf' 2003.
Still a facsimile of the real thing, but pound for pound mighty impressive.
IF you can find some - try 'vintage character' it was the original LBV and much much closer to the real thing. I had some btls from the 60s and they were awesome and tremendous value.
Having said that, you can pick up a case of 12 btls vintage port at auctions for as little as £120-150 (obviously not the big guns but even so) I think I paid around £6-7 btl for the Burmester 82 - sadly my 2 cases are now coming to the end weeping

dirty boy

14,828 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Don said:
I went on an excellent Port Tasting tour of the Oporto port houses and the surrounding region. What an eye-opener. It was superb.

What I discovered was that a truly excellent Tawny port does it for me in a way it's hard for Vintage to match and you don't have to finish the bottle in a sitting. Ha. Like it was going back in the cupboard.

LBV is generally a disappointment I have to say.
Rochas Tawny Port usually hits the spot for me, although I must admit, when my case ran out I had an M&S Port that'd been sitting around a year or two and gave that a go and wasn't dissapointed (although I was gasping for a glass of port!)




Bebs

3,031 posts

305 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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I like this


Bebs

3,031 posts

305 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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But for the ultimate vintage port - this is by far the best I have ever tried along with the '27


uncinqsix

3,239 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Bebs said:
But for the ultimate vintage port - this is by far the best I have ever tried along with the '27
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Bebs

3,031 posts

305 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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uncinqsix said:
Bebs said:
But for the ultimate vintage port - this is by far the best I have ever tried along with the '27
Hate you Hate you Hate you Hate you Hate you.
drink

Dibble

13,260 posts

264 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Now I really like Port (must be the Royal Navy service!), but I suspect I've been drinking the rubbish stuff. I can easily do a bottle in one go...

Can I get a decent bottle for £20? If so, where from? Or should I go a few more quid, and just enjoy the odd glass rather than the whole bottle?

Do I need to head to an independent wine merchant, or are there some decent bottles to be had at supermarkets?

I've enjoyed a couple of wine tours in Oz (Hunter Valley and Yarra), which really did educate me in what I like and don't like. Is it time to strap the panniers on the bike and head to Portugal?