A question. Number plate retention
Discussion
No,
Timeline for me removing a plate from a car at Chester DVLA, with no problems
1st Monday - Docs into DVLA, counter bod checked over paperwork and received payment (£105)
1st Friday - Acknowledgement and cert to get new numbers arrives in post
2nd Friday - Retention cert arrives in post
3rd Monday - New V5 arrives in post
Not saying that you cant get it done quicker, just an example of the timescale from an actual transfer this year
Timeline for me removing a plate from a car at Chester DVLA, with no problems
1st Monday - Docs into DVLA, counter bod checked over paperwork and received payment (£105)
1st Friday - Acknowledgement and cert to get new numbers arrives in post
2nd Friday - Retention cert arrives in post
3rd Monday - New V5 arrives in post
Not saying that you cant get it done quicker, just an example of the timescale from an actual transfer this year
A bit of both really I want the number,and also i want the guy to recieve all the paper work on the day. I didn't expect it to go abroad. But i have had a hell of a lot of interest overseas. It would have been a bit different with a UK buyer as i could have got around the issue. Like i have in the past when i have bought vehicles with private plates on them.
just start taking it off tommorow and photo copy everything....i did this a couple of years ago,and the new owner took copies and assurance i would post the v5 off as soon as it appeared,the car left with my private plate on and he had replacement plates with the old number in the boot....the car usually reverts back to its original number....but he has to trust you,if he wants to take it immediately...and you him.
If you want to keep the plate, get it off the car before you sell it because when you sell the car the plate on it becomes the property of the new owner. Well, as far as it can be when the plate really belongs to DVLA.
I lost a plate by selling the car before I took it off. The new owner made an agreement with me that he'd transfer it back to me at the end of the sale, but he did a runner and there's nothing anyone can do about it anyway.
I lost a plate by selling the car before I took it off. The new owner made an agreement with me that he'd transfer it back to me at the end of the sale, but he did a runner and there's nothing anyone can do about it anyway.
4sure said:
just start taking it off tommorow and photo copy everything....i did this a couple of years ago,and the new owner took copies and assurance i would post the v5 off as soon as it appeared,the car left with my private plate on and he had replacement plates with the old number in the boot....the car usually reverts back to its original number....but he has to trust you,if he wants to take it immediately...and you him.
The car will not revert back to its original number, a fresh number will be allocated by the DVLA.The other issue may be that the DVLA have the right to ask to inspect the vehicle, especially if it has been off the road for a while or is of a certain age.
If you let the car go prior to getting the OK from the DVLA, you could end up losing the plate if the transfer doesn't go through smoothly.
mercfunder said:
The car will not revert back to its original number, a fresh number will be allocated by the DVLA.
The other issue may be that the DVLA have the right to ask to inspect the vehicle, especially if it has been off the road for a while or is of a certain age.
If you let the car go prior to getting the OK from the DVLA, you could end up losing the plate if the transfer doesn't go through smoothly.
9 times out of 10 the original number is reused, but becomes non-transferable itself. Your other points are valid.The other issue may be that the DVLA have the right to ask to inspect the vehicle, especially if it has been off the road for a while or is of a certain age.
If you let the car go prior to getting the OK from the DVLA, you could end up losing the plate if the transfer doesn't go through smoothly.
mercfunder said:
4sure said:
just start taking it off tommorow and photo copy everything....i did this a couple of years ago,and the new owner took copies and assurance i would post the v5 off as soon as it appeared,the car left with my private plate on and he had replacement plates with the old number in the boot....the car usually reverts back to its original number....but he has to trust you,if he wants to take it immediately...and you him.
The car will not revert back to its original number, a fresh number will be allocated by the DVLA.The other issue may be that the DVLA have the right to ask to inspect the vehicle, especially if it has been off the road for a while or is of a certain age.
If you let the car go prior to getting the OK from the DVLA, you could end up losing the plate if the transfer doesn't go through smoothly.
BLUETHUNDER said:
Its been used as an every day vehicle. But it is collectable.
Easiest thing to do at this late stage is to sell the car as is, then get the buyer to transfer the reg back to you. The forms can be signed just after you've sold the car so that all the docs can be posted together.ETA dont forget to take copies as the DVLA shredder likes to eat anything outside the norm.
Edited by saaby93 on Tuesday 2nd March 19:25
saaby93 said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
Its been used as an every day vehicle. But it is collectable.
Easiest thing to do at this late stage is to sell the car as is, then get the buyer to transfer the reg back to you. The forms can be signed just after you've sold the car so that all the docs can be posted together.ETA dont forget to take copies as the DVLA shredder likes to eat anything outside the norm.
Edited by saaby93 on Tuesday 2nd March 19:25
Difficult
If it was a uk buyer youd have to sell him the vehicle
He fills in the V317 as hes now the owner to transfer the reg back to you
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...
(see page 4)
He then also has to fill in a V62 as he's not yet been issued with a V5C
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_40...
I dont know how it works if he doesnt have a uk address
If it was a uk buyer youd have to sell him the vehicle
He fills in the V317 as hes now the owner to transfer the reg back to you
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...
(see page 4)
He then also has to fill in a V62 as he's not yet been issued with a V5C
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_40...
I dont know how it works if he doesnt have a uk address
If it's going abroad, why does the buyer want/need the UK documents? I thought you were supposed to fill them in and send them off as exported? And if the car is going abroad, why not just do the usual retention paperwork and let it come through in the post in a few weeks, the car having gone abroad is hardly relevant. Unless of course the buyer wants to keep it UK registered, in which case, you can still do the retention, with the buyers cooperation, and you'll get a regular number to put on the car.
Why is it not as simple as that?
Why is it not as simple as that?
Balmoral Green said:
If it's going abroad, why does the buyer want/need the UK documents? I thought you were supposed to fill them in and send them off as exported? And if the car is going abroad, why not just do the usual retention paperwork and let it come through in the post in a few weeks, the car having gone abroad is hardly relevant. Unless of course the buyer wants to keep it UK registered, in which case, you can still do the retention, with the buyers cooperation, and you'll get a regular number to put on the car.
Why is it not as simple as that?
Because its government work.Why is it not as simple as that?
See section F on the V317C above
If you do a transfer you have to send off the V5C and cannot sell the car until you get the new one which can take 20 days
Hence with that method you need to do it before advertising the car
If it was a transfer, fair enough, but it's not, it's just a retention.
The DVLA don't need to know that the car has been sold and gone abroad, and the retention paperwork will just get processed as normal and come out in the wash. If the car is going to Holland and is being registered there, what does the buyer need the UK V5C for, does the Dutch version of the DVLA need it, or does the new owner want to frame it and put it on the wall?
I like to follow rules, but surely just filling in the retention paperwork and sending it off is the solution, regardless of where the car actually is or its ownership status. It's not like the new owner will be completing a V62 to throw a spanner in the works.
The DVLA don't need to know that the car has been sold and gone abroad, and the retention paperwork will just get processed as normal and come out in the wash. If the car is going to Holland and is being registered there, what does the buyer need the UK V5C for, does the Dutch version of the DVLA need it, or does the new owner want to frame it and put it on the wall?
I like to follow rules, but surely just filling in the retention paperwork and sending it off is the solution, regardless of where the car actually is or its ownership status. It's not like the new owner will be completing a V62 to throw a spanner in the works.
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