Remove voting rights for unemployed?

[Futuo]

Why should they have a say in how the country is run if they don't contribute?

How's that for an idea?

[Plotloss]

It's st.

What about those who are made redundant, who contributed more in a single month than they will receive in 6 months of JSA?

Should they not be allowed to vote?

What should happen is that voting should be made compulsory.

[Zod]

I agree with Plotloss. The only alternative is that I decide who gets to vote.

[SFMXKR]

Zod said:

I agree with Plotloss. The only alternative is that I decide who gets to vote.

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

[B17NNS]

As st ideas go its up there with the sttiest.

I take it you've never been made redundant?

[shirt]

as someone currently receiving jsa which covers about 40% of my mortgage, how about fk off?

[Blue Meanie]

Er... Stupid idea. They have a right to have a voice too.

[Shuvi]

Futuo said:

Why should they have a say in how the country is run if they don't contribute?

How's that for an idea?

How about you grow up.

[mcbook]

I don't believe for a second that you think that's a good idea... troll-style wind up. Maybe just a retarded comment though.

[Shuvi]

Plotloss said:

It's st.

What about those who are made redundant, who contributed more in a single month than they will receive in 6 months of JSA?

Should they not be allowed to vote?

What should happen is that voting should be made compulsory.

That's always been a really good idea.

It's compulsory in Aus isn't it? Don't quote me but isn't there always something like an 85/90% turnout and no one's ever hauled up before the beak for not voting - but, the results do reflect the majority view of the populace. Proper democracy.
(In that very narrow and fragile understanding of the word.)

[wiggy001]

I don't think voting should be compulsory - some people (believe it or not) really don't care, and I don't want their random X changing politics in this country for those that do.

I wish there were a way to get more people to care, and actually vote for what they believe in. Then none of us would feel the need for a tactical vote. I don't know how we can achieve that though.

The only people in this country that should not be allowed to vote are those under 18, and those in prison IMHO.

(Oh, and those that will vote Labour in order to keep their nest feathered... )

[Dracoro]

Plotloss said:

What should happen is that voting should be made compulsory.

Why? The ones that refuse to vote will only go and vote for someone everyone hates as a protest. You'll end up with BNP MPs this way.

Forcing people to do stuff they don't want will only pi$$ them off and they end up doing stupid stuff like voting for silly people. This is not healthy for democracy. If turnout is 70%, do you really then want an annoyed 30% of the populace voting BNP out of protest? They'll win the election!!

Low tunouts is a failure on the part of the parties, not the voters, they simply haven't engaged the populace.

(note that the BNP above is just an example, it could be any other minority party that people may use as a protest, we may even get the greens in! all our lovely cars will be banned then! )

[Eric Mc]

Futuo said:

Why should they have a say in how the country is run if they don't contribute?

How's that for an idea?

Dumb.

What about women who stay at home to look after kids?

What about those over 18 who are in full time education?

What about those who work for nothing (voluntary carers etc)?

What about OAPs - particlalrly females who made no or minimal contributions during their working age?

Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 3rd March 08:16

[Jasandjules]

Democracy is giving power to the people. Part of that power is the choice not to vote (sadly). But every UK Citizen residing in the UK, regardless of circumstances, should be entitled to vote.

[Four Cofffee]

The general consensus seems to be NO.

[jshell]

Futuo said:

Got a sneaky feeling I'm a 'tard. What do PH'rs think?

PH'rs said:

We agree.

[bonsai]

shirt said:

as someone currently receiving jsa which covers about 40% of my mortgage, how about fk off?

Christ. I thought JSA was to assist in finding a job, not to give you a roof over your head for 60% of what you should be paying.

[shirt]

bonsai said:

shirt said:

as someone currently receiving jsa which covers about 40% of my mortgage, how about fk off?

Christ. I thought JSA was to assist in finding a job, not to give you a roof over your head for 60% of what you should be paying.

it is. but what I find galling is that if I hadn't worked continuously for 2yrs and rented a property, I would get £95 a week jsa plus housing benefit to cover the rent. as that isn't the case, I get £65 a week and £7 a month towards c/tax. they also refused my backdating the claim from 4th jan to Xmas eve (last day at work was the 23rd) as apparently them being closed wasn't a good enough reason. i would happily vote on the issue of unemployment benefits alone.

[Si 330]

bonsai said:

shirt said:

as someone currently receiving jsa which covers about 40% of my mortgage, how about fk off?

Christ. I thought JSA was to assist in finding a job, not to give you a roof over your head for 60% of what you should be paying.

Have you actually though or consider about what you have just said?
Do you just see the JSA as paying for stamps and stationary when sending your CV? Or as soon as redundancy as hit you you just hand back the house to the mortgage provider and walk in to the housing benefits office.
Things can become very hard quiet quickly for people who have been made redundant. £64 per week doesn't go very far at all but you still have to survive.

[LD1Racing]

Futuo said:

Why should they have a say in how the country is run if they don't contribute?

How's that for an idea?

I take it this is in response to the claims that Lord Ashcroft should be denied his right to influence UK policy as he is a 'tax-exile'?

Certain members of the Labour Party were claiming that if you do not pay tax in the UK, you should be ineligible to vote, therefore logic dictates those on benefits who are also non-tax payers should also lose their right to vote?

However this would mean Labour would lose it's core support. oops.