Cockney - Is the language dead?
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Just made me think after reading this here
I know that Mockney is the trendy face of the Londoner now but due to the fast changing rate of London and outlying areas has the classic Cockney died out?
You know, the car saleman, the builder etc.
Any reference to Dick Van Dyke in you deduct 10,000 points.
I know that Mockney is the trendy face of the Londoner now but due to the fast changing rate of London and outlying areas has the classic Cockney died out?
You know, the car saleman, the builder etc.
Any reference to Dick Van Dyke in you deduct 10,000 points.
Edited by Morningside on Wednesday 3rd March 13:25
No. I live in the east end of London, and still hear it spoken occasionally. Builders yards, markets, places like that. There is a Jewsons fairly close to where I live where most of the guys speak with a strong cockney accent, and use a fair chunk of rhyming slang.
Odd that people on here don't like it. Why not? I really enjoy hearing it spoken, and will actively try to talk to people who use it.
(I'm also told that it is very common in prisons as well. Not sure how true this is tho'.)
Oli.
Odd that people on here don't like it. Why not? I really enjoy hearing it spoken, and will actively try to talk to people who use it.
(I'm also told that it is very common in prisons as well. Not sure how true this is tho'.)
Oli.
mel said:
I'd say it's almost dead in East London but some some strange reason still seems to be alive and kicking in Portsmouth where everyone appears to be a geezer, a mush with some ryming thrown in for good measure
There's a name for the Cockney-Pompey thing I think. The other pompey people speak with an "'ampshire accent just loike nipper roight!".The cockney accent is very prevalent in Sussex too. I'm baffle when I hear the appallung tones in East Grinstead, for example. "Good old Grinstead tahhhnn, that's where me haaas is innit". The proper Sussex accent is lovely though.
You are confusing Cockney with Mockney. Guy Ritchie and his type are to blame - posh blokes who think they they have a bit of street cred, talking Mockney. It may have some of the same words but sounds completely different. Cockney is an accent all of its own, nothing to do with Mockneys or t
ts in Portsmouth etc.
Still good to hear a genuine cockney as opposed to the wide boys in the South of England making it up
ts in Portsmouth etc.Still good to hear a genuine cockney as opposed to the wide boys in the South of England making it up
Taken from Wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney
"A study was carried out by the city in 2000 to see how far the Bow Bells could be heard,[citation needed] and it was estimated that the bells would have been heard six miles to the east, five miles to the north, three miles to the south, and four miles to the west. According to the legend of Dick Whittington the bells could once be heard from as far away as Highgate.[15] The association with Cockney and the East End in the public imagination may be due to many people assuming that Bow Bells are to be found in the district of Bow, rather than the lesser known St Mary-le-Bow church.
Thus while all East Enders are Cockneys, not all Cockneys are East Enders. The traditional core districts of the East End are Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Stepney, Wapping, Limehouse, Poplar, Millwall, Hackney, Hoxton, Shoreditch, Bow and Mile End. "The Borough" to the south of Waterloo, London and Tower Bridge were also considered Cockney before redevelopment all but extinguished the local working class areas, and now Bermondsey is the only Cockney area south of the Thames, although Pearly Kings and Queens can be found as far out as Peckham and Penge. The area north of the Thames gradually expanded to include East Ham, Stratford, West Ham and Plaistow as more land was built upon."
"A study was carried out by the city in 2000 to see how far the Bow Bells could be heard,[citation needed] and it was estimated that the bells would have been heard six miles to the east, five miles to the north, three miles to the south, and four miles to the west. According to the legend of Dick Whittington the bells could once be heard from as far away as Highgate.[15] The association with Cockney and the East End in the public imagination may be due to many people assuming that Bow Bells are to be found in the district of Bow, rather than the lesser known St Mary-le-Bow church.
Thus while all East Enders are Cockneys, not all Cockneys are East Enders. The traditional core districts of the East End are Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Stepney, Wapping, Limehouse, Poplar, Millwall, Hackney, Hoxton, Shoreditch, Bow and Mile End. "The Borough" to the south of Waterloo, London and Tower Bridge were also considered Cockney before redevelopment all but extinguished the local working class areas, and now Bermondsey is the only Cockney area south of the Thames, although Pearly Kings and Queens can be found as far out as Peckham and Penge. The area north of the Thames gradually expanded to include East Ham, Stratford, West Ham and Plaistow as more land was built upon."
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