Work Experience staff
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Nope their is not. However you will probably find that they do come with strings attached.
For example, a college near me stipulates that their student can work no more than 10 hours per WEEK because its what they deam to be enough to get experience but not so many that they struggle with keeping up in college.
Uni may be less strict in this effect but you may well find yourself needing to fill out work experience plans on what they will learn each week etc etc. effectivly your new staff member that was saving you time is just making you the work back up.
For example, a college near me stipulates that their student can work no more than 10 hours per WEEK because its what they deam to be enough to get experience but not so many that they struggle with keeping up in college.
Uni may be less strict in this effect but you may well find yourself needing to fill out work experience plans on what they will learn each week etc etc. effectivly your new staff member that was saving you time is just making you the work back up.
Ummm, thanks for the reply. That's something I had not thought of. I am planning on a marketing student and they need to be able to contact people and fill databases and all sorts of data ad nauseum! They will work with my marking lass so I am hoping that this will leave me the time and focus to be able to do what I do best.
Well, that's the theory anyway.
Well, that's the theory anyway.
Stevenj214 said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
I am not planning to pay them.
Isn't there an issue here with minimum wage laws? In anycase, I'd have thought it would be only fair to pay them (even min. wage).This is new to me - TBO when my marketing lass mentioned it to me, she had to say it three times because it didn't register the first couple of times that people would be prepared to do the spade work for free. From what she says, it is quite the done thing, but it's news to me. I will dig further.
Engineer1 said:
If you really want to do it cheap look at Internships, the way they are advertised it sounds like they don't have to be paying jobs, but you may have to prove there is a job available at the end assuming they meet your criteria.
I have thought about this. The thing is, TBO I don't know if there is. At the moment I see this as being a short term data gathering exercise. It might grow into something more involved, but I am not sure.drivin_me_nuts said:
Stevenj214 said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
I am not planning to pay them.
Isn't there an issue here with minimum wage laws? In anycase, I'd have thought it would be only fair to pay them (even min. wage).This is new to me - TBO when my marketing lass mentioned it to me, she had to say it three times because it didn't register the first couple of times that people would be prepared to do the spade work for free. From what she says, it is quite the done thing, but it's news to me. I will dig further.
This to me says the position should be paid, unless the work experience is part of their education course. Even at that, my friends at uni who had to do a year in industry for their 3rd year were still paid (and most above national minimum wage).
Talking of work experience, I'm in the penultimate year of my bachelors degree in Politics at the moment so I'm looking for some sort of work experience or internship for the summer. If anyone could do with an extra pair of hands in the office for a few weeks sometime after June I'd love to throw my hat in the ring for it. London or Bristol, I'd be interested in anything you've got available!
We used to take a work experience person (generally someone who decide an education was a good idea when they had already left school), but gave up about 5 years ago due to the increasing hassle. We had a 'health and safety' inspection before each one, the last one required us to throw away hazardous substances (Tippex) before we were allowed a trainee.
The trainees could find the smallest of excuses not to turn up, were incapable of doing simple tasks (answering the phone in polite English) and after 2 weeks were demanding full wages as they were doing the same job as the rest of us.
I hope you have better luck with a higher educated person.
The trainees could find the smallest of excuses not to turn up, were incapable of doing simple tasks (answering the phone in polite English) and after 2 weeks were demanding full wages as they were doing the same job as the rest of us.
I hope you have better luck with a higher educated person.
I have just started an internship (unpaid), I found it on http://graduatetalentpool.direct.gov.uk/cms/ShowPa...
It's 2 days a week, professional qualification paid for as part of my training (equal value to employers as my degree) expenses paid for etc.
The only downside (apart from not being paid) is that only 1 staff member was a former intern, and they take on 3 a year for the last couple of years. The likelihood of
being fully employed with them is slim.
I think you need offer something extra if you have no intention of taking them on full time. You will only get poor candidates with a poor prospect like that.
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It's 2 days a week, professional qualification paid for as part of my training (equal value to employers as my degree) expenses paid for etc.
The only downside (apart from not being paid) is that only 1 staff member was a former intern, and they take on 3 a year for the last couple of years. The likelihood of
being fully employed with them is slim.
I think you need offer something extra if you have no intention of taking them on full time. You will only get poor candidates with a poor prospect like that.
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Edited by MrTom on Monday 8th March 11:20
Edited by MrTom on Monday 8th March 11:24
We offer a couple of work experience places, but now I'm seriously thinking of stopping offering it for the following reasons:
1) I calculated that it cost us (circa) £2k (in time), by way of sorting out all the red tape.
2) One of my daughters recently did work experience (via the same Government agency) and she was aked to fill in a 'confidential questionnaire' at the end of it. It included questions like: Did your employer explain to you the benefits of joining a trade union? and: Did the company employ disabled people and were there any areas whereby the company could improve disabled access. And so on.... The questionairre was so left wing it looked like it was designed by the Greenies.
1) I calculated that it cost us (circa) £2k (in time), by way of sorting out all the red tape.
2) One of my daughters recently did work experience (via the same Government agency) and she was aked to fill in a 'confidential questionnaire' at the end of it. It included questions like: Did your employer explain to you the benefits of joining a trade union? and: Did the company employ disabled people and were there any areas whereby the company could improve disabled access. And so on.... The questionairre was so left wing it looked like it was designed by the Greenies.
There has been a business set up to cater for this exact type of requirement - check out www.enternships.com
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