so looks like they want to really screw us
Discussion
Just seen this, sounds like madness but then again the current bunch of muppets like doing things the mad way
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddri...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddri...
it should read shoppers could face vat on food because of the labour government........high taxes will not facking stimulate economic growth, if you cant figure this out you must be a moron like the turd in charge.....
seriously do we really need to have such huge increases in taxes and decreases in our standard of living so that the overgrown public sector can go on bankrupting us.....
seriously do we really need to have such huge increases in taxes and decreases in our standard of living so that the overgrown public sector can go on bankrupting us.....
Taxes WILL have to go up.
We are in the eye of the storm at the moment, unemployment has risen, but most don't realise just how f
ked we are. Soon the government (of any colour) will have to reduce the deficit, it won't magic itself away by growth. The structural deficit (ie it will still be there even if the eceonomy starts growing again at 2-3%) is at least £70 Billion and will have to be closed. The bulk of that adjsutment should fall on spending (but won't if Labour somehow clings on to power). Pay freezes, changes to pension rights, benefits spending etc.
But some will have to come from taxation. Labour's approach seems to be to finish what they started and turn us into a 3rd world economy by driving away business. An alternative approach is to tax consumption, which will not hinder export led recovery.
I fully support extending Vat onto many of the items currently exempt or at a lower rate. Why should there be a lower rate of vat on domestic fuel, while the motorist is getting screwed. Why should new build housing be exempt?
Food is a trickier issue, given how it would hammer the poor. But certainly in all other areas a full rate of Vat should apply.
We are in the eye of the storm at the moment, unemployment has risen, but most don't realise just how f
ked we are. Soon the government (of any colour) will have to reduce the deficit, it won't magic itself away by growth. The structural deficit (ie it will still be there even if the eceonomy starts growing again at 2-3%) is at least £70 Billion and will have to be closed. The bulk of that adjsutment should fall on spending (but won't if Labour somehow clings on to power). Pay freezes, changes to pension rights, benefits spending etc.But some will have to come from taxation. Labour's approach seems to be to finish what they started and turn us into a 3rd world economy by driving away business. An alternative approach is to tax consumption, which will not hinder export led recovery.
I fully support extending Vat onto many of the items currently exempt or at a lower rate. Why should there be a lower rate of vat on domestic fuel, while the motorist is getting screwed. Why should new build housing be exempt?
Food is a trickier issue, given how it would hammer the poor. But certainly in all other areas a full rate of Vat should apply.
This is the usual Labour media management - distribute misinformation by saying they're acitvely considering a Doomsday option such as this, and then they'll miracualously and marvellously come up with a not-so-controversial plan to take money off us. Then the credulous British electorate will be relieved that Labour's done them all another favour, hey presto Winky's in No 10 for another 5 years. Never mind that what we actually get is hugely unpalateable, unworkable and involves some kind of legalised theft targeted at middle-income honest law-abiding taxpayers whilst sparing the rump Labour electorate (aka the benefit scroungers and other assorted riff-raff) and sparing Labour's rich chums too (although they're a rapidly dwindling bunch).
Parrot of Doom said:
So get an allotment and grow your own. f
k them, they can't tax that.
Where? the ones my dad and grandad had were sold off by the council. Some new houses on there now about the size of rabit hutches.
k them, they can't tax that.Even when there were loads of Allotments there was a massive waiting list. even if I could get one which i probably can't I am not driving the other side of town after a ten hour day to stand in the rain with a hoe.
Other than that its a great idea
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 7th March 15:22
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