Totally confused..... GPS/Laser/Radar detectors
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I'm not sure there is one. Most of the portable ones seem to be one or the other (ie GPS or Radar/Laser or GPS/Laser). Anything that incorporates all seems to be two components wired so that the radar/laser is in under the bonnet and the GPS is in the car. So you need the whole wiring kit in all vehicles and multiple radar/laser units as they are not easily transferable.
If someone produced a unit that was an all in one then I would be really interested as well.
I don't see any technical reason why they can't be in on box.
If someone produced a unit that was an all in one then I would be really interested as well.
I don't see any technical reason why they can't be in on box.
Yep road angel - and it comes with a Laser Alert bolt on as well (part of the package I think)
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Re Laser - well you can go for a Blinder Max - works incredible well - had it tested jammed right up to about 50m.
I'd rather know about a laser being pointed then you've got a chance to step on the brakes by the second reading. They take two reading ( I think ?? )
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Re Laser - well you can go for a Blinder Max - works incredible well - had it tested jammed right up to about 50m.
I'd rather know about a laser being pointed then you've got a chance to step on the brakes by the second reading. They take two reading ( I think ?? )
I bought a brand new Whistler 1650 Laser/Radar detector off ebay for £46 about 3 months ago, which seems very reliable for picking out working Radar sources (unfortunately traffic light systems too) and a few weeks ago, it went ballistic showing a Laser alert, so it obviously works. I am going to supplement the system with a PDA GPS SatNav system which works with a downloadable database of Scameras from the internet. I've been informed by others using this system that it is very good. You can get such a system from £400 and above, depending on the PDA you use or whether it is a wired or Bluetooth GPS. There is no single system that does what you want.
The problem with a "single box" concept is that to be effective you need, as a minimum:
* a laser jammer - mounted near the front number-plate;
* a radar detector - mounted forward facing;
* an annunciator unit - mounted where you can hear and see it.
These requirements are mutually exclusive for a single box (except, maybe, for "forward control" vehicles).
Add in a GPS aerial (for such devices) - mounted where it has a view of the sky; and rear-facing laser jammer and radar detector (for protection in that area) and you have a system that has six elements in a minimum of three locations. A minimal system would have three elements in three locations.
New developments aside, the system that comes closest to easy portability is the Origin B2 with its second car kit. All the elements (laser detector - not mentioned above as it just tells you you've been nicked
; GPS aerial; laser jammer - optional extra; and annunciator unit mounting are fitted in each vehicle with everything plugged into the small annunicator mounting. The annunciator unit itself is portable - about 2" (50mm) X 1.5" (38mm) X 1/2" (13mm) in size and light in weight).
Streaky
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* a laser jammer - mounted near the front number-plate;
* a radar detector - mounted forward facing;
* an annunciator unit - mounted where you can hear and see it.
These requirements are mutually exclusive for a single box (except, maybe, for "forward control" vehicles).
Add in a GPS aerial (for such devices) - mounted where it has a view of the sky; and rear-facing laser jammer and radar detector (for protection in that area) and you have a system that has six elements in a minimum of three locations. A minimal system would have three elements in three locations.
New developments aside, the system that comes closest to easy portability is the Origin B2 with its second car kit. All the elements (laser detector - not mentioned above as it just tells you you've been nicked
; GPS aerial; laser jammer - optional extra; and annunciator unit mounting are fitted in each vehicle with everything plugged into the small annunicator mounting. The annunciator unit itself is portable - about 2" (50mm) X 1.5" (38mm) X 1/2" (13mm) in size and light in weight). Streaky
(Usual disclaimers)
but streaky. Most radar/laser detectors are in-car mounted.
All GPS systems are in-car mounted and most only need an extra aerial if you have certain cars.
So there is no real reason these could not be merged.
Yes, to have a laser blinder that would need to be seperate but it is often recommended anyway.
All GPS systems are in-car mounted and most only need an extra aerial if you have certain cars.
So there is no real reason these could not be merged.
Yes, to have a laser blinder that would need to be seperate but it is often recommended anyway.
icamm said:My point entirely.
but streaky. Most radar/laser detectors are in-car mounted.
icamm said:My point entirely.
All GPS systems are in-car mounted
icamm said:All need a separate aerial if the unit cannot see the sky (no LOS or metalised windscreen")
and most only need an extra aerial if you have certain cars.
icamm said:But they could only be merged if the user is forced to mount the "merged" unit where it has LOS to the sky (and the vehicle does not have a "metalised" windscreen) for the GPS and of the road ahead (and behind too) for the rader/laser. These requirements are not easy to facilitate in all types of vehicles (don't just think "saloon cars"). Neither is it possible to please all purchasers by restricting their choice of mounting position for the unit in the vehicle.
So there is no real reason these could not be merged.
icamm said:The laser detector is commonly regarded as useless as it merely gives notice of a potential NIP.
Yes, to have a laser blinder that would need to be seperate but it is often recommended anyway.
Streaky
One point to remember is that if you go to France you must remove any radar detector or risk a big fine and confiscation of the unit.
This cannot apply to GPS locators as they work only in the public domain with sat. based technology and are part of navigaton systems. In fact, I think Peugeot are offering their UK cars with a locator fitted as new.
I don't know what the situation is with laser jammers in France. They are legal in the UK as they don't transmit a radio signal, just an infra-red beam.
You are all correct that a laser warning is virtually useless as it takes 0.3 seconds to 'clock' you with laser and you simply cannot bleed off speed quickly enough. All a laser detector will tell you is to expect an NIP within 14 days!
This cannot apply to GPS locators as they work only in the public domain with sat. based technology and are part of navigaton systems. In fact, I think Peugeot are offering their UK cars with a locator fitted as new.
I don't know what the situation is with laser jammers in France. They are legal in the UK as they don't transmit a radio signal, just an infra-red beam.
You are all correct that a laser warning is virtually useless as it takes 0.3 seconds to 'clock' you with laser and you simply cannot bleed off speed quickly enough. All a laser detector will tell you is to expect an NIP within 14 days!
I have never shown any interest in such equipment, so have no idea how reliable it is? How much will a decent system cost me?
I am not in the habit of greatly exceeding the speed limit. But I have just recieved my first ever ticket from one of those mobile units Hampshire Police seem to have spend all there money on! Nevermind all the other terrible things I could be doing. It's far more important to pinch an otherwise law abiding citizen for 58 mph in a 50 mph zone. On a road that until fairly recenly was a 70 mph zone anyway. Feel cheated!
I am not in the habit of greatly exceeding the speed limit. But I have just recieved my first ever ticket from one of those mobile units Hampshire Police seem to have spend all there money on! Nevermind all the other terrible things I could be doing. It's far more important to pinch an otherwise law abiding citizen for 58 mph in a 50 mph zone. On a road that until fairly recenly was a 70 mph zone anyway. Feel cheated!
markda said:The only reason they reduced the speed limit was to catch people like you! At 70 the road would have made them no money, at 50 it becomes a nice cash generator. You are like the millions of other drivers in the UK getting more and more disillusioned with the Police, the Speed Camera partnerships and the government that legitimises them all. Bollox to the lot of ‘em I say
On a road that until fairly recently was a 70 mph zone anyway. Feel cheated!
Rich...You so right RichB! The road is a duel carrigeway, away from houses and no public footpaths, schools or bus stops to be seen. I have lived in the area for the past 10 years and I cannot remember any accidents on there either?!
Nevermind, if I had been an immigrant, uninsured without MOT certificate or tax and managed to crash into the mobile unit, they would have probably let me off, given me a free house and increased my benifit while I couldn't work!
Nevermind, if I had been an immigrant, uninsured without MOT certificate or tax and managed to crash into the mobile unit, they would have probably let me off, given me a free house and increased my benifit while I couldn't work!
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