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buggalugs

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9,269 posts

261 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Just quoting to replace one of the last Windows 98 PCs at a clients - the latest inland revenue CD won't run on it.

(Fault description: the CD drive is broken)

This is the book keepers PC - in use all day, every day. Office 2K, old version of Firefox (with icon changed to blue E hehe, ancient Sage...


Anyone else got any cobweb strewn relics still ticking over?

S6PNJ

5,776 posts

305 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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I recently rebuilt my dad's PC (Pentium III 600Mhz) with Win 98. I don't think his CNC software will run on anything newer!

Morningside

24,147 posts

253 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Yup. I have a laptop and old PC running at 100Mhz mainly for DOS.

Reason? Well, old programming software for radios. Motorola and some others are quite old and use software timing and anything too fast just cause it to fail.

onomatopoeia

3,523 posts

241 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I have a P2 based PC running 98 on my desk. I have to support some software I wrote many years ago that directly programs the FDC and DMA chips using IN and OUT instructions.

This doesn't work too well on modern things like Windows 2000 as user mode and v86 mode processes run at IOPL=3 and the NT kernel just throws the IO instructions from these processes in the bin.

Fortunately almost everyone has stopped using it now, we stopped selling it years ago.

Cmurder

1,725 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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ill beat u all under my bed i have a pentium 2 with MMX ! thats right MMX

tribbles

4,144 posts

246 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I've got a 66Mhz DX2 machine (?) for programming EPROMs on (the hardware won't work on Pentium upwards). Runs DOS.

But that's ignoring the BBC micro I set up a couple of weeks ago (one of several I have) - but that's just for messing around with smile

buggalugs

Original Poster:

9,269 posts

261 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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onomatopoeia said:
I have a P2 based PC running 98 on my desk. I have to support some software I wrote many years ago that directly programs the FDC and DMA chips using IN and OUT instructions.

This doesn't work too well on modern things like Windows 2000 as user mode and v86 mode processes run at IOPL=3 and the NT kernel just throws the IO instructions from these processes in the bin.

Fortunately almost everyone has stopped using it now, we stopped selling it years ago.
That's fairly heroic to still support that!

GingerRob

443 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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That's retro silicon baby lol

marshalla

15,902 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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I have an Amiga 3000 running Linux as a "backup" DNS server - just because I can.

spitfire-ian

4,122 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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marshalla said:
I have an Amiga 3000 running Linux as a "backup" DNS server - just because I can.
Geek!! hehe

marshalla

15,902 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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spitfire-ian said:
marshalla said:
I have an Amiga 3000 running Linux as a "backup" DNS server - just because I can.
Geek!! hehe
Nicest thing anyone's said to me all year!

A geek is nerd with social skills - and an extrovert geek is one who looks at YOUR shoes when he's talking to you hehe

Frankeh

12,558 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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I found a windows 95 computer still in a classroom at a school I used to visit for a few hours a week.
I turned it on once just to see what would happen.
The answer is not much for a long time.

The_Burg

4,853 posts

238 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Found a brand new unused laptop with a preload of WIN95, was actually not bad performing.

Man-At-Arms

5,920 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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still got my old Commodore 64 in my wardrobe
and if i look in the loft, i'll probably find my old Olivetiti 286 (12MHz processor & 20MB HDD !)

in fact i think it had a math co-processor making it a 287 !

Frankeh

12,558 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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The_Burg said:
Found a brand new unused laptop with a preload of WIN95, was actually not bad performing.
Well it would if it was brand new. It's when they've been in service, without a defrag, since 1995. That's when the problems arise. wink

Mattt

16,664 posts

242 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Frankeh said:
The_Burg said:
Found a brand new unused laptop with a preload of WIN95, was actually not bad performing.
Well it would if it was brand new. It's when they've been used to browse porn, without a defrag or AV, since 1995. That's when the problems arise. wink
EFA

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

206 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Tried loading '95 on to a modern PC?

I had a copy of this on floppy disks.... (about 28 of them!).

Try installing it now with a CD, full install takes a couple of minutes!

Morningside

24,147 posts

253 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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maser_spyder said:
Tried loading '95 on to a modern PC?

I had a copy of this on floppy disks.... (about 28 of them!).

Try installing it now with a CD, full install takes a couple of minutes!
Oh hell, I have tried that one. It is very painful.

I have some old PC/104 embedded control things that boot from EPROM (basically a mirror of a small floppy) - They only work on DOS 3.3

I also have over 100 touchpc handhelds that use embedded DOS - Still trying to figure out the DOS function calls to the OS as the company will not help unless I buy a zillion of them, then I can 'have' the SDK frown

AndyAudi

3,801 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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buggalugs said:
Anyone else got any cobweb strewn relics still ticking over?
I've just been online to re-order fabric ribbons for the NEC that prints all my old mans remittance advices & monthly accounts (on the green & white listing paper).

All this is run from a Western Systems 386 (& windows 3.1)

at 70 years of age his book keeper (who would also fit into the category of cobweb strewn relics) is itching to get a new machine & get online thanks to the forthcoming changes for HMRC submission!